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Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by mcmcmc »

spamizbad wrote: post #10
bpodgursky wrote: post #6

It's interesting how Texas and Florida are both "red" states but have pivoted into really different political paths under the same flag. Texas is leaning into becoming the manufacturing and R&D hub for the US, and is courting gigascale data centers and rolling out nuclear power, near-infinite solar, wind, and gas to power it as fast as possible. Florida is leaning into the retired and populist factions of the GOP, ba…

Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals and Florida is a hub for non-college retirees

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals

Becoming? This has been true for decades in the urban areas

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by lenerdenator »

> Florida Republican Attorney General James Uthmeier filed a lawsuit on Monday against OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman, alleging that the AI startup’s ChatGPT is unsafe and that the company misled the public about associated risks. The suit contends that ChatGPT poses risks to children and is responsible for a “litany of harms,” including addiction and aiding and abetting mass shootings and suicide. It seeks civil penalties for alleged violations of the state’s unfair trade practice, product liability, public nuisance and negligence laws.

Reverend Doctor Robert Evans had a few episodes on Behind the Bastards this last month about how AI chatbots seem to sometimes create cult-like dynamics with their users. I don't know how this argument will fare in court, but I don't know if this is necessarily wrong.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Sam Altman has been running a personal PR campaign against himself for three years now. It’s tremendously popular to take pot shots at him, which means launching an investigation or lawsuit against OpenAI is probably politically expedient even if it goes nowhere.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

spamizbad wrote: post #10
bpodgursky wrote: post #6

It's interesting how Texas and Florida are both "red" states but have pivoted into really different political paths under the same flag. Texas is leaning into becoming the manufacturing and R&D hub for the US, and is courting gigascale data centers and rolling out nuclear power, near-infinite solar, wind, and gas to power it as fast as possible. Florida is leaning into the retired and populist factions of the GOP, ba…

Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals and Florida is a hub for non-college retirees

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals

Source? It’s been an open secret in academia and medicine that professors [1] and doctors [2] are fleeing Texas’s political climate.

[1] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/05/texas-faculty-univer...

[2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/08/Texas-obstetrics-gyn...

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by nailer »

Legend2440 wrote: post #18

Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

> certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this

My understanding is that OpenAI products specifically provided help in planning attacks / self harm.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by rayiner »

sethops1 wrote: post #17
bpodgursky wrote: post #6

It's interesting how Texas and Florida are both "red" states but have pivoted into really different political paths under the same flag. Texas is leaning into becoming the manufacturing and R&D hub for the US, and is courting gigascale data centers and rolling out nuclear power, near-infinite solar, wind, and gas to power it as fast as possible. Florida is leaning into the retired and populist factions of the GOP, ba…

As a lifelong citizen of Texas, I would emphasize the decades-long renewable energy expansion has been happening _despite_ our political leadership, not because of it.

The fact that it’s easier to build stuff in Texas—whether it’s oil rigs or solar farms—is related to the political leadership. There may be no intention to facilitate renewables, but intentions and effects are two quite different things.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by nxnsnsjsijssb »

Legend2440 wrote: post #18

Claims in the lawsuit seem sketchy, and I don't think they will win. It is probably not true that ChatGPT has resulted in an increase in murders and suicides, and certainly it would be very difficult to prove liability on OpenAI for this. It reminds me of the campaign in the 90s against video game manufacturers for "corrupting the youth". But I also don't think they expect to win. They just want to show that they're…

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Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by nailer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25
spamizbad wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals and Florida is a hub for non-college retirees

> Texas is becoming a hub for educated professionals Source? It’s been an open secret in academia and medicine that professors [1] and doctors [2] are fleeing Texas’s political climate. [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/05/texas-faculty-univer... [2] https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/08/Texas-obstetrics-gyn...

[1] is incredibly vague. Professors of what specifically? Computer science? Feminist theory? The second doesn't produce 'educated professionals'.

Re: Florida sues OpenAI and Sam Altman over AI risks

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #8

It's better that kids be harmed than the government starts intervening with regulation. Either kids aren't actually being harmed, government regulation will cause more harm, or parents should parent their kids. Either way, nothing about the solution should involve me.

> or parents should parent their kids

Parents are voters. One of the way they parent is by being civically active in their kids’ interest.

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