Skimmed through the page no mention of what spark is. Is it a new ISA? SoC with CPU, GPU and NPU? Or just GPU+AI?
It's an ARM64 CPU with a nVidia GPU rather than garbage Adreno, not bad
A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
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Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box. If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably. If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm…
MediaTek used to supply a lot of lower-performance MIPS and ARM chips during 2010s. GP probably has that MediaTek == bad experience association. The actual chips weren't unreliable or horribly engineered, just slow, but people don't make a clear distinction there.
Sure but MediaTek isn't making the actual CPU, they're just making the unimportant parts of the chipset, who cares
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#23Just a bunch of nonsense text strung together. “Top agentic and AI developer workloads like GitHub Copilot, Claude Code, ComfyUI, Cursor and more now run across all modern PC silicon – making Windows the ideal platform for AI-assisted development” None of these tools make use of local GPU whatsoever.
And you better be sure that I'm setting up linux on this. Windows is not the ideal platform for anything anyway.
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
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Sooooo they binned all their old DGX Spark crap to pawn on poor clueless consumers to try to be an ARM fighter and probably still fail miserably behind Apple Silicon and even likely older Qualcomm metal running Windows. And Mediatek ? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box.
> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box. If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably. If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm…
no, not calling "china bad", calling out all the SOCs they had some pretty glaring exploit holes on that a bunch of stupid OEMs kept shipping long after the holes were well known. i've also had a pretty bad time with a lot of their wifi chipsets on our networks, but hey.
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#25A Ryzen 9 laptop with 24GB of RAM and a 5070 is £1200. This thing better be dirt cheap. Basically add the price of the RAM, and deduct the price of having to use ARM and being forced into a Windows ecosystem. So what's that total? £1500 to £2000 depending on who you ask? Who is this for? Not gamers, not average Windows users, not professional developers or content creators.
Thing is, hardly any games are optimized for ARM. And no serious AI development occurs on Windows.
I understand that you want multiple models running concurrently, but then 128GB is starting to look cramped.
It's a bold move that goes one to one against Apple and AMD Strix Halo.
I'm looking at it and thinking, if it can run Linux at a fair price it could be great.
I'm curious. I am thinking, what does a non developer buy this thing, take it home, and do with it.
What does the unboxing and first 24 hours look like?
A mixture of emotions somewhere between thinking you are living in the future, and frustration at not actually being able to do much.
The target audience seems like wealthy early adopters, but that is about it.
I guess we shall see.
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#26Just a bunch of nonsense text strung together. “Top agentic and AI developer workloads like GitHub Copilot, Claude Code, ComfyUI, Cursor and more now run across all modern PC silicon – making Windows the ideal platform for AI-assisted development” None of these tools make use of local GPU whatsoever.
> None of these tools make use of local GPU whatsoever.
You can use local models with most of those, you’d just need to get something like Ollama, LM Studio or vLLM working - but that’s the boring and not flashy part, it’s probably easier to name the dev tools.
Copilot: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/copilot-cli/custo... (also worked in Visual Studio Code)
Claude Code: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/model-config (here’s an example of a custom config in the wild with DeepSeek, same principle for local connection https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/agent_integrations/clau...)
Cursor: couldn’t find official docs but here’s z.AI docs https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/cursor (same principle for local API)
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And Mediatek? Oof. I assume the SOC comes pre compromised out of the box. If by compromised you mean “china bad”, mediatek is taiwanese not chinese. Same home as asus, asrock, tsmc, htc, acer, d link, adata, biostar, insyde, gskill, foxconn, realtek and many others. From the chip to bios in your pc probably. If you mean quality, they make efficient and more powerful chipsets especially gpu wise compared to qualcomm…
no, not calling "china bad", calling out all the SOCs they had some pretty glaring exploit holes on that a bunch of stupid OEMs kept shipping long after the holes were well known. i've also had a pretty bad time with a lot of their wifi chipsets on our networks, but hey.
That is true. But to be fair, the exploits needed physical access to the device and Qualcomm also had their fair share of those issues. I believe actually trust worthy companies who ship both chips did actually fix those issues.
It’s the no name brands. And those are all odm devices which mtk already sold off. Talking about MT65xx era where you didn’t even need to unlock the bootloader for a flash.
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
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I don't understand why this isn't bigger news - this is a laptop SoC with actual gaming hardware running on ARM - unlike Apple's M series, which tend to have rather underwhelming perf in games compared to what the specs would suggest, finally we can have a thin-and-light with an efficient gaming GPU. Considering how much Valve invested into ARM emulation, it's quite possible the next Steam Deck/handheld will use a va…
It's seeming to be going to be an another DGX Sparks that aren't so faster than maxed out Mac Studio, nor cheaper than 4x Blackwell on a workstation, nor cloud tokens. That's why.
Yeah the 1 PF is only for sparse models (only half otherwise), and it seems to have serious hardware issues: https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1982831774850748825
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#29A Ryzen 9 laptop with 24GB of RAM and a 5070 is £1200. This thing better be dirt cheap. Basically add the price of the RAM, and deduct the price of having to use ARM and being forced into a Windows ecosystem. So what's that total? £1500 to £2000 depending on who you ask? Who is this for? Not gamers, not average Windows users, not professional developers or content creators. Thing is, hardly any games are optimized fo…
> but then 128GB is starting to look cramped.
Indeed. This NVIDIA CPU will have a lifetime overlapping with the successor of Strix Halo, which has been announced recently and which increases the maximum amount of DRAM to 192 GB.
The Strix Halo CPU has better multi-threaded performance than this, so the only advantage of NVIDIA is that the top variants will have a bigger GPU than Strix Halo and its successor, but I assume that the variants with a bigger GPU will also be much more expensive.
Re: A powerful new chapter for Windows PCs, accelerated by Nvidia RTX Spark
#30This reads as lip service for investors with no real life value. "Remember guys, we are still AI frontier material!"
ai frontier -- on your PC!
which is terrifying