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Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by dnnddidiej »

rayiner wrote: post #10

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That sounds too extreme. I like Australia where states (ok much less populated than US states!) have certain building powers esp. to build rail infra but local can manage planning rules pertaining to an area but within a state level framework.

Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by alephnerd »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #13
smcg wrote: post #4

I think we should have a letter writing campaign to shame residents of Atherton. There's not that many of them.

> we should have a letter writing campaign The state should be able to collect damages for frivolous NIMBY lawsuits. I don’t care if they’re ashamed. If they’re fine paying more taxes to behave like idiots, who cares.

Where do the fundraising events for House, Senate, and the State House happen ;)

Atherton is a vibe, but it's an older demographic of tech and finance successes (the 1990s-2000s scene).

Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by refulgentis »

quantumwoke wrote: post #11

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Note to future selfs? (-selves?)

Around Opus 4.6 release it got good enough people tried laundering it all the time, and around 4.8 the group dynamics were such that it was worse to call it AI writing than launder it as your own.

Regardless, there was still enough of a taboo around it that the way people would try to launder it began to often include an AI-generated "sources" table, which was also aggressively bad, but lord knows no one reads those. So it was just another sigil that misled.

Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by micromacrofoot »

reducesuffering wrote: post #20

Atherton resident Marc Andreessen Apr 18th 2020: "It's Time To Build" "We can’t build nearly enough housing in our cities"[0] Andreessen family 2 years later: "IMMENSELY AGAINST multifamily development! I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton... They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values"[1] [0] https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/ [1] ht…

it's time to build (ew, no not here... somewhere else)!

Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

alephnerd wrote: post #22
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we should have a letter writing campaign The state should be able to collect damages for frivolous NIMBY lawsuits. I don’t care if they’re ashamed. If they’re fine paying more taxes to behave like idiots, who cares.

Where do the fundraising events for House, Senate, and the State House happen ;) Atherton is a vibe, but it's an older demographic of tech and finance successes (the 1990s-2000s scene).

> Where do the fundraising events for House, Senate, and the State House happen

Atherton is wealthy. But it’s surrounded by the Bay Area. Atherton is uniquely civically engaged, but that’s about it. Palo Alto, Los Gatos, Cupertino and San Francisco can each muster more capital than it can, to say nothing of LA.

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Post by segmondy »

Animats wrote: post #7
smcg wrote: post #4

I think we should have a letter writing campaign to shame residents of Atherton. There's not that many of them.

I've never been able to figure out what's so great about Atherton. The houses are big, but other than that, it's nothing special. Woodside is a nice horse community with hills and sequoias. Los Altos Hills used to be; there was a time when the Los Altos Hunt ran the town. Palo Alto is next to Stanford. Portola Valley used to have more patent holders per capita than anywhere else in the US. Atherton is just a bedroom…

sometimes that's it... you're thinking they are not great and if others feel the same, then it's no wonder they feel insecure and are fighting footing for recognition.

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Post by em-bee »

quantumwoke wrote: post #11

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if we are going to complain about AI content then i suggest we also include some evidence to make the argument at least somewhat insightful. i'll start: pangram gives this a 100% score (without the sources section), on account of the em-dashes. remove those and the score drops to 49%. include the sources and the score drops to 36%.

(edit, i misread the score: after removal of the em-dashes the result is 48% generated and 49% assisted, add the sources, then it is 33% generated, 36% assisted, and 30% human. i didn't check the original text including the sources. i ran out of free credits.)

Re: Atherton spent $145K to delay train electrification. The rest of us paid $400M

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Post by nielsbot »

Animats wrote: post #7
smcg wrote: post #4

I think we should have a letter writing campaign to shame residents of Atherton. There's not that many of them.

I've never been able to figure out what's so great about Atherton. The houses are big, but other than that, it's nothing special. Woodside is a nice horse community with hills and sequoias. Los Altos Hills used to be; there was a time when the Los Altos Hunt ran the town. Palo Alto is next to Stanford. Portola Valley used to have more patent holders per capita than anywhere else in the US. Atherton is just a bedroom…

don’t forget cachet among well off people.
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