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Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by harry8 »

superkuh wrote: post #6
Kapura wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're acting like this wasn't intentional

I don't mean to imply it isn't. I wouldn't be surpised. I just have no evidence of such. CA TLS is messy and pretty much impossible to get right even over medium timescales. But it does reminds me of when Garmin GPS would make the storage filesystem limited to say, 3GB of read size, then offer "lifetime map updates" while knowing that in a few years the new map size will not be readable on old Garmin devices.

“ the original 2023 end-of-support page had been re-dated and rewritten on Microsoft's site; the "continue to function" clause was removed”

You sound like a shill trying to muddy the waters. It’s petty clear when they silently change their web pages to delete features sold that it’s quite deliberate or did they accidentally do that too? Do you have a direct or indirect relationship with microsoft perchance or just missed it in TFA maybe?

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Post by thfuran »

harry8 wrote: post #11
dangus wrote: post #8

I would encourage affected customers to go to small claims court. You’ll probably get a default judgment. Small claims court was created for just this type of issue.

But they’ve got you. Nobody uses Microsoft office turdware unless they’re locked in and have to. You lose access to it. You’re cooked.

If you’re cooked because of Microsoft’s willful destruction of property, that just means it’s not a small claim anymore.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by Kapura »

gchamonlive wrote: post #10
Kapura wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're acting like this wasn't intentional

Maybe it wasn't which is worse, meaning Microsoft despite being in the top 10 most valuable companies in the world can't even get these basic details right. I think assuming this was intentional is actually giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt tbh.

do you like, not understand how capitalism does to tech

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by wmf »

nikcub wrote: post #14

I believe the urgent deprecation timeline here may be related to ai labs using offline licensed Office in agents as part of workflows and Office integration. Microsoft wants _each_ agent instance to be a separate license[0] There was always a probability that Microsoft were going to funnel offline users into O365 at some point - but I imagined that to take place over months / years not weeks and days. Buying a single…

These are single-machine licenses. I doubt thousands of agents can run on a single machine.

Re: Microsoft Office 2019 and 2021 for Mac view-only conversion

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Post by wmf »

amluto wrote: post #18
dangus wrote: post #8

I would encourage affected customers to go to small claims court. You’ll probably get a default judgment. Small claims court was created for just this type of issue.

IMO it would be better if there was a general mechanism to prevent profiting from corrupt business practices. For example, a court could determine how much money Microsoft made by selling perpetual licenses that turned out to be a lie, add interest, add a 50% penalty, and require Microsoft to pay all of that into a trust to be collected by any customers harmed. The point would not be so much to help the customers but…

The general mechanism is lawsuits; in this case class action lawsuits.
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