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Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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post #5

the damage is done. Why did they ever think it was a good idea to brag that they were going to destroy all middle/upper class jobs?

Because that was the truth. Now they have learned they are going to have to lie to the people so the masses can be sleepwalked to the same eventuality.

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#22
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It is kinda funny the irony of going from "we are going to replace devs" to "we <3 devs, keep burning those tokens"

I don't think its as big of a deal as its made out to be. They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs. What's more important is that this signals product market fit.

There are many humans without any skin in the game that accurately estimated the capabilities of LLMs.

It has nothing to do with "being human". This wasn't about finding "product market fit" either. It was about griftin' while the gettin' was good. That certainly is "human".

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think its as big of a deal as its made out to be. They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs. What's more important is that this signals product market fit.

"They are human after all.." Hahaha! Good one!

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Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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Saying people are going to lose jobs at least sounded like we were at the cusp of something special. Now it just seems like we are going to get Opus 4.8.1 that supposedly helps somehow according to benchmarks.

Guess they have found their market and this is it.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#25
To recap: 1) they developed and heavily pushed a technology they thought would result in mass unemployment, 2) they now believe they are wrong, so the market/government should definitely support their company going public. Which means that they were both intending to tank the economy and take your job away, and they were also wrong in their predictions, and now want to be rewarded for both with more money.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think its as big of a deal as its made out to be. They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs. What's more important is that this signals product market fit.

They are backpedaling because AI backlash is slowing down their data center builds.

Millions of Nvidia GPUs are stranded in warehouses right now with nowhere to be installed and some will be deprecated in less than a year. Good thing Micron and everyone in the supply chain is scaling up to make millions more... I am sure this will work out fine when they write down all of the inventory which is too old to install

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#27

Of course, the fact that the statements they made confidently for years are now hastily getting undone in the face of public backlash only further cements their reputation as snakes who can't be trusted farther than one can throw a bowling ball. For a while there I actually respected Amodei for sticking to his guns on the job loss thing, it seemed like it was his genuinely-held belief and he was going to keep saying…

Is it possible Amodei has revised his opinion after his predictions were empirically proved false?

I haven't looked at how long he's been predicting job destruction, so I don't know if that explanation fits the facts.

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#28
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That’s the Elon Musk spirit!

These Ai's will be full self driving next year.

These Ais can drive from a parking lot in new York to a parking lot in California now

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#29
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the Elon Musk spirit!

These Ai's will be full self driving next year.

These Ai's will be fools self driving next year.

I see what your dialect did there. Can i quote you verbatim?

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#30
Unfortunately it will take longer for our bosses to walk it back. I feel like I'm fighting the battle daily, telling execs what kind of work LLMs do not replace... it's very slippery, they keep on doing the rhetorical texas two-step - I don't think they even realize they're doing it. We communicate that LLM is amplifying, they hear it can replace. "No, we need humans to help with specs" "But AI can help with that." "But only help, they can't come up with the idea." "Sure they can, we can just ask them."

It's also amazing how hidden some of these realities were before. Like, you assign a ticket to a developer - in the past they just wanted to know the developer was working on it and didn't care so much which work was what. They'd probably be so surprised to find out that a large percentage of implementation was deriving exactly what was meant by the jira ticket or the specification or the product person's intent. Which is all the stuff you have to work on before you can type in a prompt to an LLM. But now there's this pressure to believe that the developers only do the implementation part that the LLMs do, so they can pretend there will be major efficiency improvements. And it's really hard to explain to them what it is that developers even do.

I know I'm not saying anything new here, but at least where I'm working all of these matters feel much more present than they did months ago.

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