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Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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It will be ironic if AfD wins and then pushes their right wing viewpoint to the max to everyone. There will be immediately be a "no wait, you can't do that" backlash from the same actors that are proposing this.

It's part of the scam, they actually want the AfD to later have that power so that they can say "Hey, look at what these fascists are doing, vote us back with urgency to prevent more fascism".

Win-win for the CDU/CSU and the AfD, the CDU gains power and has a boogeyman to use to scare voters into voting for them.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Springer journalists (Die Welt. Politico) already have to sign that they will publish largely US friendly content.

Die Welt censored its comment section that contained too many independent entries in 2022.

The entire German press only repeats what Trump says in any given hour, without any reflection. They will criticize the persona of course, but they'll never question fundamental issues like increased US energy dependency or the real causes behind US wars.

Germany and the entire EU have been completely neutered by US propaganda. It was different during the Irak war.

Now they try censorship to prevent people from voting AfD, Here is a hint: Nothing at all will change anyway if Goldman Sachs ex-employee Weidel is chancellor. She'll be invited to a "talk" to Washington and come back as a puppy dog just like Meloni.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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I think creating a government whitelist of default-promoted sources is almost scarier than action taken against specific ones. There's less friction to prevent abuse of power. At least from an American law perspective, you could point to clear damages on a blacklist and sue.

From a US law perspective it's an immediate nonstarter on constitutional grounds.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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>Instagram, and TikTok will be legally required to make those outlets’ content more visible in users’ feeds. That can be a good thing, something is really needed to make sure people see real verifiable facts instead of people's made up conspiracy theories. Add on top of that AI, things could get real bad quickly. But this can easily be abused, I have to wonder what checks will be applied.

Germany has sent people to jail for calling what's going in Gaza a genocide, despite the majority of genocide scholars and human rights groups all saying it's a genocide.

This proposal is less about verifiable facts and more about the German government forcing its narrative on its populace.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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Before this blows up: - The world has very diverse ideas about how media regulation works. Germany has a strong public service broadcast tradition that is constitutionally anchored. You may not like it, but that's the cultural and legal tradition and changing it is not easily done. Please respect that especially coming from a country with a more liberal tradition (and perhaps a less functional media system, e.g. in t…

How is it guaranteed that public service broadcasting in Germany is not influenced by government? To me this seems like a gross intervention in the media so I'm struggling not to be critical here. Just because different cultures have different values does not make them equal.

I mean, that's a very intuitive question if you're not used to the system, and a bit surprising if you are.

The historic precedent is that Germany's first Chancellor wanted to establish a state-funded and state-directed TV station. This was explicitly shut down by the constitutional court.

As a result, a system was established to (1) ensure funding is not decided upon by state institutions but instead by an independent body of experts (KEF). (2) control over the meta-level content decisions is exercised by a body (essentially like a parliament) of representatives from societal groups (e.g. including politicians, doctors, churches etc etc.)

Now the "gross intervention in the media" is a very recent American idea - up until pretty recently the US did have the fairness doctrine, it has licensing and so on, all of these are gross interventions in media. And so are libel laws etc. So the German insight that underpins its media regulation is: You cannot have functional mass media without enabling them through some form of state action, you can only try to be light-handed and implement checks and balances.

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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post #19

Before this blows up: - The world has very diverse ideas about how media regulation works. Germany has a strong public service broadcast tradition that is constitutionally anchored. You may not like it, but that's the cultural and legal tradition and changing it is not easily done. Please respect that especially coming from a country with a more liberal tradition (and perhaps a less functional media system, e.g. in t…

To back up your third point, here is a study of the political bias in the German public service broadcasters (in German): https://web.archive.org/web/20240207032743/https://polkom.if...

Can you summarise this?

Re: Germany Law to Force Algorithm Boost for State-Approved News

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post #22

Springer journalists (Die Welt. Politico) already have to sign that they will publish largely US friendly content. Die Welt censored its comment section that contained too many independent entries in 2022. The entire German press only repeats what Trump says in any given hour, without any reflection. They will criticize the persona of course, but they'll never question fundamental issues like increased US energy depe…

Huh? I think the press in germany was never as free as it is now. A lot of new publications and competition. And that Trump is not reflected critically, nope, i do not agree.
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