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Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by charcircuit »

tacticalturtle wrote: post #20
charcircuit wrote: post #12

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Is it actually breaking DRM? Or is it just creating a 1:1 copy of a proprietary format? > Game consoles that are supported include the original Xbox, Xbox 360, GameCube, Wii, and Dreamcast. Physical media from other consoles, such as PlayStation 3, 4, 5, and the Xbox One/Series consoles, technically work, but the content on physical media for these consoles is encrypted. Breaking encryption is definitely “illegal” -…

I would consider changing the format of a disc to prevent it from being copied by a regular drive to be considered a protection measure. The content is still encrypted so if not the disc, it would be the emulator decrypting it which would be the problem.

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by whycome »

charcircuit wrote: post #16
pirates wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all do illegal things all the time, I’m fine knowing that this one goes in the “bad” pile. I’m sure something terrible will happen to me soon.

It's not just you who you are affecting, but also all the people who worked on the game, Nintendo and Microsoft, and even the entire video game industry by doing things like this.

Continuing to play discontinued games and sharing that joy with new people and generations seems like a good way of strengthening an industry

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by charcircuit »

theandrewbailey wrote: post #17
charcircuit wrote: post #12

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This firmware is code, and code is speech[0]. Any law making speech illegal is unconstitutional. I'm puzzled as to why the DMCA (or this part of it) hasn't been overturned yet. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junger_v._Daley

It hasn't been overturned for the same reason copyright hasn't been despite it restricting people's speech.

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by ASalazarMX »

whycome wrote: post #22
charcircuit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just you who you are affecting, but also all the people who worked on the game, Nintendo and Microsoft, and even the entire video game industry by doing things like this.

Continuing to play discontinued games and sharing that joy with new people and generations seems like a good way of strengthening an industry

Well, yes I guess, but will it create short-term value for shareholders? Mountains of it if possible?

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by isidisjcisjcud »

charcircuit wrote: post #16
pirates wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all do illegal things all the time, I’m fine knowing that this one goes in the “bad” pile. I’m sure something terrible will happen to me soon.

It's not just you who you are affecting, but also all the people who worked on the game, Nintendo and Microsoft, and even the entire video game industry by doing things like this.

Yeah, Nintendo AND Microsoft of all companies really do deserve all the pity they can get, seeing as they’re such pro-consumer, fan-friendly, not-at-all monopolistic, completely altruistic entities. Right?

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by altairprime »

charcircuit wrote: post #12

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The legality is subject to the court’s opinion, and a court is not compelled to interpret the situation the same way you do. Their job is to interpret written laws using their opinions and available case law, and also to pass human judgments on laws that aren’t encoded in machine-parseable structures (such as fair use rights). Declaring this particular instance illegal this early requires more case law references than you’ve provided.

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by CursedSilicon »

charcircuit wrote: post #16
pirates wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all do illegal things all the time, I’m fine knowing that this one goes in the “bad” pile. I’m sure something terrible will happen to me soon.

It's not just you who you are affecting, but also all the people who worked on the game, Nintendo and Microsoft, and even the entire video game industry by doing things like this.

Won't someone think of the multi billion dollar corporations?!

If peop- THIEEEVES can just download old games forever, how will these companies make money by selling new games? Or reselling the old games in their half-baked emulation offerings!

Truly the author behind this software deserves a special place in hell for creating such an evil!

(Obligatory reminder the above is to be taken as hyperbolic sarcasm. The very idea that someone would jump to defend corporations against software designed for cultural preservation is saddening)

Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by cindyllm »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #27
charcircuit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just you who you are affecting, but also all the people who worked on the game, Nintendo and Microsoft, and even the entire video game industry by doing things like this.

Won't someone think of the multi billion dollar corporations?! If peop- THIEEEVES can just download old games forever, how will these companies make money by selling new games? Or reselling the old games in their half-baked emulation offerings! Truly the author behind this software deserves a special place in hell for creating such an evil! (Obligatory reminder the above is to be taken as hyperbolic sarcasm. The very…

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Re: Modern Blu-ray drives can now rip GameCube, Wii, and Xbox 360 games to PC

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Post by bit-anarchist »

charcircuit wrote: post #23
theandrewbailey wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This firmware is code, and code is speech[0]. Any law making speech illegal is unconstitutional. I'm puzzled as to why the DMCA (or this part of it) hasn't been overturned yet. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junger_v._Daley

It hasn't been overturned for the same reason copyright hasn't been despite it restricting people's speech.

In other words, this is a law that still ought to be overturned by a better Supreme Court.
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