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TP-7 Field Recorder

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Re: TP-7 Field Recorder

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Discussions at release (2023) - (171 points, 194 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35906292 (43 points, 27 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35899498

That discussion contains: TE have perfected milking hipsters to perfection As someone considering buying a pocket operator for his son: How true is this? What are decent alternatives for PO?

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Re: TP-7 Field Recorder

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Discussions at release (2023) - (171 points, 194 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35906292 (43 points, 27 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35899498

That discussion contains: TE have perfected milking hipsters to perfection As someone considering buying a pocket operator for his son: How true is this? What are decent alternatives for PO?

Any used Akai device. Depending on how old I would say get them the new standalone device called the mpc one+. If the price is too steep look for a used midi device from Akai.

Honesty, a used cell phone would make a better pocket operator.

Re: TP-7 Field Recorder

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Its not jealousy or any of those things - its a desire to see the audio industry improve upon itself, and not just pander to shiny-thing-obsessed hipsters. Teenage Engineering have a long history of pandering to the bespoke-coveting hipster market, and for those of us who develop pro audio products, it is frustrating to see TE get the press for features that are well and truly established - at much more affordable pr…

As someone who has both TE and monome gear along with Elektron, Moog, and a decent variety of other gear, I still don’t understand the hate toward TE and it reminds me very much of the Apple haters who bash the company no matter what they ship claiming it’s all over-priced and that you can get better gear for less. Back in the early 2000’s people made the same sort of comments about Apple laptops that I see applied t…

I have used all of this gear for years, and I have worked in product development in the pro audio industry for decades (you might even recognize some of the things I've worked on) and the thing I don't like about TE is the pretentiousness of their products, which are dressed up and fancy but fundamentally limited when compared to the competition. They don't provide good end value, all things considered - and especially not in a very competitive industry that is always innovating and finding ways to bring the BOM budget into reasonable levels.

monome is an example of a high-end/hipster product you can build yourself for peanuts, so don't overlook that factor. Plus, the ecosystem that its community has built, due to the open nature of its architecture, is superlative - similar to that of Zynthian, which has attained a huge faithful following for the same reason, and both Zynthian and monome are 100x more innovative than TE, for 1/8th the cost, generally.

I have a small form-factor recording device in my pocket already, which I simply plug a microphone into and start recording, right away, at seriously higher quality than I need for most purposes. It only cost me a couple hundred bucks, plus a couple hundred for a decent microphone, and it works far, far better than the flimsy bespoke parts of the TX-6 can withstand. Plus, it can do Internet and movies and music with a great deal of ease.

TE make good props for hipsters. They don't make great musical instruments.

Re: TP-7 Field Recorder

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A big part of the appeal from TE products is their industrial design. The critics don't get it and talk about cost-benefit, bare minimum features. But the fact is, some people like to have nice, shinny objects. Yeah, spec wise, the Tascam Dr-07xp is absolutely superior to this, but at the same time, it is fucking ugly. For a professional, functionality is more important, but this is an amateur product.
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