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Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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what a nonsense, generated, article. > For context: GLM 5.1 ran the same task and reached 7.3x. Kimi K2.6 reached 5x. DeepSeek V4 Pro reached 3.3x. The models that stopped early did so because they issued no tool calls for five consecutive rounds, they concluded they couldn’t make further progress and stopped. Qwen3.7-Max didn’t stop. By this reasoning I could release a model that lacks all the basic optimisations. H…

It is not the model's job to stop or continue, it's the agent. Qwen has nothing to do with it.

Right now now I switched to the latest codewhale agent (in Rust), and it would perform much better according to his qualifications. Much better async IO implementation and orchestration, no more deadlocks as in the typical typescript tooling. It just doesnt stop out the blue, as claude, kimi or opencode.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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post #7

I don't doubt that it did it but I wouldn't want to maintain whatever it ended up spewing after 35 hrs. In my experience, AI fixes problems by mostly adding more code. It's a short term gain for a long term hurt.

In my experience, AI fixes problems by mostly adding more code. In my experience, humans unfortunately tend to do the same.

Some do, but we should not be level-setting at mediocrity.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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Obligatory: Either written by AI or by a human who has spent so much time with AI that they adopted its writing style. Anyways. > Over 35 hours it performed 432 kernel evaluations. Each cycle meant writing code, compiling it, running it, reading the profiling output, deciding what to change, and trying again. The model diagnosed compilation failures it hadn’t seen before, identified performance bottlenecks through ru…

Genetic algorithm is random. This is intelligent evolution. Big difference.

Temperature is the rephrasing of randomness. No difference, just much better matchers.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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Obligatory: Either written by AI or by a human who has spent so much time with AI that they adopted its writing style. Anyways. > Over 35 hours it performed 432 kernel evaluations. Each cycle meant writing code, compiling it, running it, reading the profiling output, deciding what to change, and trying again. The model diagnosed compilation failures it hadn’t seen before, identified performance bottlenecks through ru…

Genetic algorithm is random. This is intelligent evolution. Big difference.

I got nerd-sniped wrt the genetic algorithm.

Technically birdshot from a shotgun is also randomly distributed (passing through a cone). This actually improves the chance of hitting the clay pigeon, because the birdshot spreads out and each individual ball has a chance to hit.

Genetic algo is similar. it's an optimizer that - in order to avoid local optima - will 'shotgun' an area around its current best guess.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

#27
post #21

so basically just brute force the kernel. there are more elegant ways to leverage an LLM, see AlphaEvolve: https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.13131 it's difficult to frame most coding tasks in such a way where you can trivially verify correctness.

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Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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Obligatory: Either written by AI or by a human who has spent so much time with AI that they adopted its writing style. Anyways. > Over 35 hours it performed 432 kernel evaluations. Each cycle meant writing code, compiling it, running it, reading the profiling output, deciding what to change, and trying again. The model diagnosed compilation failures it hadn’t seen before, identified performance bottlenecks through ru…

Genetic algorithm is random. This is intelligent evolution. Big difference.

Both are non-deterministic, both have some metric to optimise, one is specific and efficient, the other is too broad and very expensive

Re: Qwen3.7-Max Ran for 35 Hours on Unknown Hardware and Achieved a 10× Speedup

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genetic algorithm is random. This is intelligent evolution. Big difference.

I got nerd-sniped wrt the genetic algorithm. Technically birdshot from a shotgun is also randomly distributed (passing through a cone). This actually improves the chance of hitting the clay pigeon, because the birdshot spreads out and each individual ball has a chance to hit. Genetic algo is similar. it's an optimizer that - in order to avoid local optima - will 'shotgun' an area around its current best guess.

Yeah, but you shoot in the direction of the clay pigeon, you don't pick randomly a direction in space where to point your gun at.
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