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Ruby for Good

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Re: Ruby for Good

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why go halfway with Rust when you could just pick Ada SPARK? Seems like an arbitrary choice based off of rationalizing a trend.

I feel like your comment is a bit tongue in cheek and i am going to take it at face value, but I honestly been feeling increasingly more like doing verbatim what you're suggesting and i dont have a very solid justification for it.

I meant it honestly. What excuse do people have to choose anything other than mission critical technologies if the AI system can do most of the heavy lifting? Why should we settle for anything less than five 9s of uptime?

Re: Ruby for Good

#24

The only programming language I know of that is obsessed with trumpeting its own moral virtue. "Matz is nice so we are nice," "Ruby for good," dragging DHH, etc. Meanwhile the Ruby Central and whytheluckystiff debacles show it to be anything but.

_why’s disappearance from the scene was 17 years ago at this point. I don’t think the Ruby community you’re talking about exists anymore.

Re: Ruby for Good

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The only programming language I know of that is obsessed with trumpeting its own moral virtue. "Matz is nice so we are nice," "Ruby for good," dragging DHH, etc. Meanwhile the Ruby Central and whytheluckystiff debacles show it to be anything but.

Dude, what? Is it the MINASWAN acronym that's the problem or? If that's "trumpeting moral virtue", I can think of lots of programming languages that trumpet their moral virtue:

Let's check out the Rust Code of Conduct (https://rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct/):

"Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude."

"We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic."

Seems pretty morally virtuous, no?

How 'bout Gleam... Right on their home page (https://gleam.run):

"As a community, we want to be friendly too. People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. See our community code of conduct for more.

Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t."

Seems morally virtuous, too!

Also also: what does the "whytheluckystiff debacle" have to do with any of this?! Also also also: _why was pretty much the first prominent "dragger" of dhh. Man was an innovator.

Re: Ruby for Good

#27
> an annual event happening this year in the Washington DC area where programmers from all over the globe get together over a long weekend to build and contribute to projects that help our communities

Or, just write code for a project - and add useful documentation to it. This is probably more relevant than overpriced hackathons.

Re: Ruby for Good

#28

Why does Ruby still have this artisinal aura to it, never seen C/C++ For Good gathering.

I would not know, but I also do not think that an event xyz in one place at time, reflects all of a community either. So I could not tell you what the people there do; probably they want to socialize. I think creating and maintaining high quality project would be much more important but maybe that's just me. All the main drivers in ruby, have been written ages ago really - rails, _why the lucky stiff, even the old "Learn to program" tutorial from Chris Pine and so forth. That is not to say that no innovation has happened since then, of course, but it seems the peak days are really far, far behind now ...

Ruby is still a great programming language, but it really needs to intensify the effort to get out of the pit-of-decline.

Re: Ruby for Good

#29

The only programming language I know of that is obsessed with trumpeting its own moral virtue. "Matz is nice so we are nice," "Ruby for good," dragging DHH, etc. Meanwhile the Ruby Central and whytheluckystiff debacles show it to be anything but.

Dude, what? Is it the MINASWAN acronym that's the problem or? If that's "trumpeting moral virtue", I can think of lots of programming languages that trumpet their moral virtue: Let's check out the Rust Code of Conduct ( https://rust-lang.org/policies/code-of-conduct/ ): "Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude." "We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all…

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Re: Ruby for Good

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Why does Ruby still have this artisinal aura to it, never seen C/C++ For Good gathering.

I would not know, but I also do not think that an event xyz in one place at time, reflects all of a community either. So I could not tell you what the people there do; probably they want to socialize. I think creating and maintaining high quality project would be much more important but maybe that's just me. All the main drivers in ruby, have been written ages ago really - rails, _why the lucky stiff, even the old "L…

> Ruby is still a great programming language, but it really needs to intensify the effort to get out of the pit-of-decline.

The languages that have supplanted it haven't succeeded by being excellent. If excellence won't do it, what should "Ruby" do?

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