This kind of behavior should be met with swift and strong reaction from both the school authorities and the law enforcement. Kids responsible should be put on trial and face serious consequences including jail time for most egregious cases. Let the news cover it nationwide. "This is what will happen if you even think about creating and circulating nude pics of anyone" should be the message sent. This is the only way to prevent this behavior - not more censorship, not technical solutions
Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart
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#22Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…
> What's the defense?
Prosecuting every one of those blackmailers. If this kind of crime starts going into the "you're gonna get caught and jailed 100%" category, less people will try it.
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#23Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…
> Don't post innocuous images of children ever? Don’t raise boys who abuse girls. That’d be a big step in the right direction.
Because girls can never be abusive?
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#24Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…
That is a clear-cut case of extortion. The defence is having the police do their job and apprehend the criminals in question. If you screen incoming messages and stop them from reaching their target, extortionists will switch to publicly releasing one risque image with threats of releasing more explicit ones. There is always an unprotected channel as you noted. As an aside, please do not use the b-mail word. It is in…
> As an aside, please do not use the b-mail word. It is insensitive towards BIPOCs.
No it isn't. If anything needs to stop its the ever escalating orwellian censorship of words that you're proposing.
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#25> Throughout the night, whenever one of the speakers brought up holding Big Tech accountable, and specifically Apple and Google’s app stores, the crowd applauded.
The framing bothers me. It's shifting responsibility away from kids and the community. Deepfakes didn't do anything: kids made and used deepfakes in destructive ways.
Big tech sucks, you get no argument from me there. But, how do people so quickly get over the fact that a kid is sexually harrassing someone?
This is like when a mass shooting happens and everyone only talks about guns. Well, yeah, if you didn't have guns a mass shooting couldn't happen, but isn't the underlying issue that someone decided that hurting a bunch of people is the best thing to do?
The more people dislike a crime, the less likely they are to talk about the perpetrator's inner life, but, come on, these are kids. How do people get so side-tracked?
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#26I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.
Hopefully we’ll get back to the time back when people didn’t have to worry about someone filming them all the time.
Cameras cryptographically signing all photos and videos should become the standard. Media that cannot be traced back to real camera hardware should a priori be considered fake or tampered with.
Still, deepfakes are partly a social problem and, as should be well known, social problems can rarely be solved by technological solutions.
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#27This kind of behavior should be met with swift and strong reaction from both the school authorities and the law enforcement. Kids responsible should be put on trial and face serious consequences including jail time for most egregious cases. Let the news cover it nationwide. "This is what will happen if you even think about creating and circulating nude pics of anyone" should be the message sent. This is the only way…
Back in my father's day you'd get executed for drawing a dick on Stalin's forehead. It's nice to see people still care more about symbolic violence than actual violence.
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#28I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.
Perhaps there is reason to be optimistic. If we believe nothing online, then digital inauthenticity may cause us to yearn more for authentic, in-person interactions.
The modern web has not been without its warts. It's led society to some very unhealthy behaviors. It's telling that a lot of people think the internet is society, rather than a slice of it. Perhaps its decline is the correction society needed.
It's easy to feel like a doomer if you're thinking "it's sad that the web is being torn apart" and your framing of the web is "the magical place of promise it used to be 25 years ago."
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#29I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Read
You will have no compute and you will like it. The top comment here is about arresting the children for distributing child porn.
We really should have kept the normies out.
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#30Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…
Why a school, in this day and age, is posting pictures of children is beyond me. At my kid’s school we refused to sign the photo release clause, and any time they might be taking pictures they had to email us to ask if it was OK if our child was included. We agreed to it for the yearbook, but refused everything else.