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Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by tjwebbnorfolk »

gowld wrote: post #13
tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.

What is nobody going to do if Iran military cuts cables? Or blocks repair ships after normal accidental damage?

I imagine they'll be able to cut exactly one cable before the US starts bombing them again. If my goal is to profit from subsea cables I don't own, getting bombed doesn't sound like a great strategy if I'm Iran.

It's information war to scare US companies away from the middle east.

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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10000truths wrote: post #18
tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.

What's to stop Iran from using the threat of cutting those cables as leverage? A speedboat and a depth charge are all it takes, and neither are particularly difficult to make.

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Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by tjwebbnorfolk »

10000truths wrote: post #18
tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.

What's to stop Iran from using the threat of cutting those cables as leverage? A speedboat and a depth charge are all it takes, and neither are particularly difficult to make.

> What's to stop Iran

What's to stop them? The enormous pile of ordnance floating in the gulf of oman that can be easily dropped on Tehran, for one...

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #23
10000truths wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's to stop Iran from using the threat of cutting those cables as leverage? A speedboat and a depth charge are all it takes, and neither are particularly difficult to make.

> What's to stop Iran What's to stop them? The enormous pile of ordnance floating in the gulf of oman that can be easily dropped on Tehran, for one...

> The enormous pile of ordnance floating in the gulf of oman that can be easily dropped on Tehran, for one

Probably not. The other comment is right: cutting cables means having its own cables cut. (Tehran is also probably weighing whether it wants to continue mobilising almost all of its neighbors against itself. Trashing e.g. Kuwait for shits and giggles isn't strategically productive.)

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by gmerc »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #17
csoups14 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was all theory before the war. Now Iran knows they can blockade that Strait and makes these demands so they have much more leverage.

> Now Iran knows they can blockade that Strait and makes these demands so they have much more leverage Tehran has more potential leverage inasmuch as they've credibly demonstrated they can block the Strait. Whether they have more actual leverage than before is uncertain–trade flows are routing around them. And their own shores remain blockaded. (Just because the U.S. has less leverage than it did before doesn't mean…

It’s not like they can shut down the main air corridor to Asia if they please, right?

Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by aaron695 »

LurkandComment wrote: post #2

The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…

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Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

gmerc wrote: post #27
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now Iran knows they can blockade that Strait and makes these demands so they have much more leverage Tehran has more potential leverage inasmuch as they've credibly demonstrated they can block the Strait. Whether they have more actual leverage than before is uncertain–trade flows are routing around them. And their own shores remain blockaded. (Just because the U.S. has less leverage than it did before doesn't mean…

It’s not like they can shut down the main air corridor to Asia if they please, right?

> not like they can shut down the main air corridor to Asia

"Shut down" is not particularly accurate. America and Europe can route around. The only ones fucked are the Gulf carriers.

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