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Iran will impose fees on subsea internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Iran will impose fees on subsea internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by browningstreet »

mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

Remember all those senior military officials being fired right before things kicked off?

They knew.

But all it takes is Trump and Hegseth YOLOing past them and all that institutional, historical knowledge counts for nothing.

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Post by crikeykangaroo »

gpt5 wrote: post #19

While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the US for this, it's also worth noting that the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far. So it gives us a bit of a glimpse of what would the world would look like with a more isolationist US, or a multipolar world.

Lol, the USA is the one who creates havoc and started this mess in the first place. What international order?!

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Post by genxy »

himata4113 wrote: post #10
jLaForest wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose of this war is to distract from the Epstein files, and it's been very successful

pretty sure people already had epstein fatigue and didn't really care anymore. yes billioanires participated in crazy unethical parties with human traffiked hookers, water is wet. to be a billionaire you have to have an inherit evil inside you, otherwise your concious would simply never allow you to build up wealth to that point without redistributing it to employees, people who helped you get where you are, improvin…

children, girls

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Post by bluGill »

spankalee wrote: post #15
lonely_wanderer wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I vacillate between two potential rationales: - there is a concerted effort to target and topple oil producers which China relies on as a form of containment of the Chinese economy. Venezuela, Iran, eventually Russia in a more direct way. The current administration is willing to accept economic pain for just about everyone because they see the transition from petroleum to green energies as the death knell for US supe…

The China point doesn't make any sense to me. High oil prices only accelerate China's transition to renewables, and rewards them for all the investment they've made so far, both in national energy production and in selling panels and EVs to the world. It hurts the US far more, especially with this admin's anti wind and solar policies.

China can't transition that fast. China has a lot of oil in storage but if the current situation continues or gets worse they are hurt. The US is a net exporter of oil so is okay though some areas use middle east oil and are hurt too.

This will take a long time to play out. Discount every short term prediction as both Iran and the US are forced to play a long game.

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Post by cdrnsf »

gpt5 wrote: post #19

While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the US for this, it's also worth noting that the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far. So it gives us a bit of a glimpse of what would the world would look like with a more isolationist US, or a multipolar world.

The US has pivoted to enforcing international disorder.

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Post by joe_mamba »

gpt5 wrote: post #19

While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the US for this, it's also worth noting that the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far. So it gives us a bit of a glimpse of what would the world would look like with a more isolationist US, or a multipolar world.

>the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far.

I'd be with you here if the US CIA wasn't the one who overthrown the democratically elected Mosaddegh and replaced him with their puppet Shah, triggering the Islamic revolution.

But I'll give you a pass since I heard they don't teach this part in american public school history curriculum.

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Post by wat10000 »

gpt5 wrote: post #19

While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the US for this, it's also worth noting that the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far. So it gives us a bit of a glimpse of what would the world would look like with a more isolationist US, or a multipolar world.

"While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the arsonist for this, it's also worth noting that the arsonist is a firefighter and was responsible for putting out numerous other fires."

I mean, yay?

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