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Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by ares623 »

OkWing99 wrote: post #8

Anthropics New Playbook: `/loop 2days /create-new-{insert-industry}-md-files` This is only for PR. No one checks what's in those docs, or if these are real, valid or ethical. The goal here is for all news outlets to pick them up. You're not the audience. Given the amount of free PR they can get from some AI-generated .md files, I'd probably do the same if I was on their boat. Right now, I don't think any other AI com…

It's like that short animation of a Kiwi bird getting high[1].

Each cycle gets shorter and shorter to sustain the high.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by colechristensen »

droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

In the legal world are there certifications for handling privileged information?

For example in the medical world if you are a provider covered by HIPAA you must have a signed "Business Associate Agreement" with any party that handles the covered protected health information (PHI).

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by ricardobeat »

> for the legal workflows we see most

I'm a bit bothered by this line. Does it mean this is based on customer's sessions? Are they entitled to build knowledge bases for every profession, topic and workflow in the world using customer data?

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by cube00 »

ares623 wrote: post #4

Does anyone find it weird that Anthropic's Github org is `anthropics` (with an 's') and the `anthropic` username is owned by some random dude in Australia? Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.

>Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.

First step out of line and that account along with anything remotely connected will be banned to oblivion.

Given they share models on Azure, Anthropic will have someone at Microsoft on speed dial.

I've even seen disconnected commit hashes disappear during their security responses which the repo owner has no way of removing.

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by DLarsen »

ricardobeat wrote: post #23

> for the legal workflows we see most I'm a bit bothered by this line. Does it mean this is based on customer's sessions? Are they entitled to build knowledge bases for every profession, topic and workflow in the world using customer data?

"Are (legally and morally) entitled" vs "act as if they are entitled"... yes, a big question.

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by clickety_clack »

bryant wrote: post #11
droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

Citation for #1 - https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2026/03/united-states-v-he... > Judge Rakoff of the Southern District of New York — addressing “a question of first impression nationwide” — ruled that written exchanges between a criminal defendant and generative AI platform Claude were not protected by attorney-client privilege or the work product doctrine. Much more to it than this one-liner that I pulled out, bu…

Can anyone be your lawyer, or does a lawyer have to be certified somehow?

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by ares623 »

cube00 wrote: post #24
ares623 wrote: post #4

Does anyone find it weird that Anthropic's Github org is `anthropics` (with an 's') and the `anthropic` username is owned by some random dude in Australia? Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.

>Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user. First step out of line and that account along with anything remotely connected will be banned to oblivion. Given they share models on Azure, Anthropic will have someone at Microsoft on speed dial. I've even seen disconnected commit hashes disappear during their security responses which the repo owner has no way of removing.

But for a beautiful window of a few minutes absolute chaos will ensue. Seems like a huge risk. And if Github/MS have power to do what you're saying, does it feel irresponsible not to do it pre-emptively with an apparently inactive account?

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

nerdsniper wrote: post #18
droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

For (1) it's so wild to me that if I pay a lawyer, they can run the same queries on these tools and they are protected by attorney-client privilege, but if I do it to help me prepare my defense, then the exact same queries would be subject to subpoena/discovery. Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and…

Self host your own LLM

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by xboxnolifes »

clickety_clack wrote: post #26
bryant wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation for #1 - https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2026/03/united-states-v-he... > Judge Rakoff of the Southern District of New York — addressing “a question of first impression nationwide” — ruled that written exchanges between a criminal defendant and generative AI platform Claude were not protected by attorney-client privilege or the work product doctrine. Much more to it than this one-liner that I pulled out, bu…

Can anyone be your lawyer, or does a lawyer have to be certified somehow?

It is my understanding that they must be certified. You are allowed to represent yourself, but it is my understanding that a non-lawyer cannot represent you.

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by palmotea »

nerdsniper wrote: post #18
droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

For (1) it's so wild to me that if I pay a lawyer, they can run the same queries on these tools and they are protected by attorney-client privilege, but if I do it to help me prepare my defense, then the exact same queries would be subject to subpoena/discovery. Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and…

> Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and allows me to be confident that my interactions won't land in discovery documents?

Isn't that a fundamental misunderstanding? Would "OPSEC" like that amount to destruction of evidence or contempt of court or something like that?

Like if all your incriminating documents are on some encrypted drive, it's not like that defeats discovery. You're supposed to decrypt them and hand them over.

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