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“I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by karel-3d »

Meneth wrote: post #10

No one can apply to be pope of the catholic church.

Technically, all adult Catholics can become Pope. But realistically it's just one of the cardinals, which means you need to become a bishop first, which means you need to become a priest first, which means you need to be celibate (x). This guy has a wife, according to the article, so he cannot become a Pope.

(x) this is technically not true for some Anglican orders that later became Catholics? Maybe? (I never remember the rules of the ordinariate.) So maybe he could first become a priest in Anglican Church, then switch to Catholicism, then become a bishop, then a Cardinal, then a Pope? It's a long shot though.

edit: ahhh the married priests in Ordinariate cannot become bishops. So he would need to have first his marriage annulled I guess.

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by nephihaha »

l23k4 wrote: post #6

We had people acting out like this before LLM chatbots, correlation does not necessarily imply causation.

This is something new. Delusions were around before, certainly, but LLM offers a round the clock potential for psychological conditioning, which would not normally be possible without sustained attention by a group of people.

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by nkrisc »

xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #9
jongjong wrote: post #5

I don't think it's right to involuntarily send someone to a psychiatric ward because he believed that he was chosen by ChatGPT to be the pope. For the same reason I don't think we should send the pope to a psychiatric ward because he believes that he was chosen for that role by an invisible man in the sky. At least there's no doubt that ChatGPT exists lol. People should be allowed to be as whacky as they like so long…

Faith and psychosis are not the same thing.

What’s the difference?

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by 1313ed01 »

danlitt wrote: post #2

This is the most hilarious JS fail I've ever seen. The entire article renders properly, all the text and styling, then the entire screen is replaced by "Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information)." It's easy enough to fix, just hammer the refresh button to prevent JS from running.

Seems to render perfectly with NoScript blocking all scripts, even with images showing.

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by gordian-mind »

embedding-shape wrote: post #17
l23k4 wrote: post #6

We had people acting out like this before LLM chatbots, correlation does not necessarily imply causation.

> correlation does not necessarily imply causation I feel like you're missing what you're replying to, why are you saying this? The article is about a person who "lost grip on reality", no one is saying LLMs is turning people into pope-wannabees as far as I can tell, you're reacting against something no one claimed.

Explicit accusation that this was caused by chatbots + call for general regulation is right there in the article:

"AFP spoke to several members about their experiences. All warned that the world has to wake up to the threat unregulated AI chatbots pose to mental health.

Questions are also being asked about whether AI companies are doing enough to protect vulnerable people."

This, in time, might be used to nerf the models that we use. Of course, one actor is singled out:

"There has also been a recent rise in people spiralling while using Elon Musk's xAI's Grok chatbot, he said."

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by embedding-shape »

gordian-mind wrote: post #26
embedding-shape wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> correlation does not necessarily imply causation I feel like you're missing what you're replying to, why are you saying this? The article is about a person who "lost grip on reality", no one is saying LLMs is turning people into pope-wannabees as far as I can tell, you're reacting against something no one claimed.

Explicit accusation that this was caused by chatbots + call for general regulation is right there in the article: "AFP spoke to several members about their experiences. All warned that the world has to wake up to the threat unregulated AI chatbots pose to mental health. Questions are also being asked about whether AI companies are doing enough to protect vulnerable people." This, in time, might be used to nerf the mo…

I don't think "correlation does not necessarily imply causation" even makes sense to someone saying "Maybe AI chatbots aren't great for people's mental health" or even "Are the AI companies actually trying to prevent AI chatbots being bad for people's mental health?", both statements seem fine and doesn't imply any causation as far as I understand.

Re: “I applied to be pope”: Losing grip on reality while using ChatGPT

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Post by jongjong »

noduerme wrote: post #20
xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Faith and psychosis are not the same thing.

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Exactly, the difference is literally only based on the number of people who believe the fictitious concept and how much political power their wield.
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