Earlier quoted context omitted.
not sure exactly what that’s supposed to mean
In any activity, once you become better, you start to think you are above everyone else aka you become a d...
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You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
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Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#22The first thing that socially excluded nerds do after they find a community that accepts them is, of course, raise barriers and gates to keep out other people who don't confirm to their particular monoculture. Which is a shame. It's a digital medium, it's not a limited consumable, you should derive nothing but joy from other people sharing your hobby. It is getting better, though. Every year, it feels like there are…
The nerds have reason to believe that if their community accepts new people, eventually they will be excluded from their own community by the most popular newcomers. That's the whole reason they started their own exclusive community in the first place. I wouldn't want to live life like a Sentinelese tribesman, I think the uncontacted tribes in Sentinel island would be happier in the long run if they integrated to the…
>The nerds have reason to believe that if their community accepts new people, eventually they will be excluded from their own community by the most popular newcomers.
Yeah because they make other people feel unwelcome lmao. Being dicks gets them booted.
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#23The first thing that socially excluded nerds do after they find a community that accepts them is, of course, raise barriers and gates to keep out other people who don't confirm to their particular monoculture. Which is a shame. It's a digital medium, it's not a limited consumable, you should derive nothing but joy from other people sharing your hobby. It is getting better, though. Every year, it feels like there are…
Just like blacks or gays should derive joy from people stealing their dress and lingo? Why? We create communities to find like-minded people who enjoy the same hobbies. Claiming that they "should be" anything is unhinged and part of the reason they hate you so much. You are just ignoring reality and pretending that because the label is the same that the implementation is too. No, they don't share hobbies, they share…
So "blacks" and "gays" (black people and gay people) can't be gamers?
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#24All he brings up are social media comments, which may have been mildly representative of people more than a decade ago, but in the present-day are widely understood to be completely immaterial.
A few years back, in one of my social media forums, I made an offhand joke about "it's about ethics in videogame journalism," since I figured that I wasn't in a toxic gaming community and that, you know, GamerGate was a thing of the past that wasn't representative of anyone actually participating in today's conversations. Cue someone who got very upset about the idea that GamerGate had any misogyny at all about it an…
There is currently a lot noise being generated because people noticed that Anita Sarkeesian consulted on Slay the Spire 2 (an amazing game, by the way). The main subreddit for GamerGate is also still very active. Those people never went away and they never figured out that they were tilting at windmills
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#25The first thing that socially excluded nerds do after they find a community that accepts them is, of course, raise barriers and gates to keep out other people who don't confirm to their particular monoculture. Which is a shame. It's a digital medium, it's not a limited consumable, you should derive nothing but joy from other people sharing your hobby. It is getting better, though. Every year, it feels like there are…
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Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#26Well if you want to normalize playing video games, stop posting "I am such a nuurrrdd" posts with crooked glasses, face front and center and pad/console visible in the background.
Aside, I could not care less if the teen celebrity of the day is being blasted for reason x-y-z on social media.
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The nerds have reason to believe that if their community accepts new people, eventually they will be excluded from their own community by the most popular newcomers. That's the whole reason they started their own exclusive community in the first place. I wouldn't want to live life like a Sentinelese tribesman, I think the uncontacted tribes in Sentinel island would be happier in the long run if they integrated to the…
This is the point of the article though. These aren't "newcomers". These are people in the same tribe being excluded or hazed for superficial reasons, nothing related to their shared interests and nerdiness over a subject.
If they were in the same tribe they wouldn’t be excluded. Unless you move the goalposts of what the tribe is.
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few years back, in one of my social media forums, I made an offhand joke about "it's about ethics in videogame journalism," since I figured that I wasn't in a toxic gaming community and that, you know, GamerGate was a thing of the past that wasn't representative of anyone actually participating in today's conversations. Cue someone who got very upset about the idea that GamerGate had any misogyny at all about it an…
There is currently a lot noise being generated because people noticed that Anita Sarkeesian consulted on Slay the Spire 2 (an amazing game, by the way). The main subreddit for GamerGate is also still very active. Those people never went away and they never figured out that they were tilting at windmills
Turds will continue to be turds. What's reassuring is that normal people have largely stopped giving their nonsense the time of day.
What's less reassuring is that all those kids grew up and are now voting.
Re: You Don't Look Like a Gamer: On Toxicity, Gatekeeping, & Women Who Share Gaming
#29Part of the problem seems to be imposing labels and identities on yourself and others. There's a saying that labels make you dumber and the (largely downvoted) comments mentioned in the article demonstrate this.
Labels are good, they help categorize and provide perspectives. Just try to have many of them not one or two :D