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Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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Coming from Germany I found it funny how tiny the subway lines are in major cities in the US compared to medium-sized cities here.

I always thought Germany was a country centered a lot around cars but it was so much more extreme in the states; seemed not possible to live in a city(!) without a car.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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Ride the D? Wow

That's actually the official slogan by LA Metro: https://shop.metro.net/collections/ride-the-d And someone even created a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_D It's LA.

Yeah, that's ridiculous

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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God it's frustrating how slow making these rail transits has been. The D line was literally planned out back in the 1960s and it took this long? I understand the plethora of problems the engineers faced when completing this. But I find it funny that once the World Cup was planned to be in LA, that's when LA leadership expedited all the legal and corporate hurdles in order to make sure we don't have another carmagetto…

I once watched the TTC (Toronto Transit Commission) close a section of doorways from the street into a station (Runnymede) to replace a small section of tile floor on the inside. It was about 10 ft x 4 ft section, it took somewhere around 2.5 years. After they ripped out the tile on in the first week, I didn't see anyone until it was done 2.5 years later. It took about another 2-3 weeks to remove the plywood and caution tape so people could use the doors again instead of having to walk around to another entrance.

The Eglinton line has taken 15 years and good portion is above ground where they don't even have to tunnel. Still not done, probably another 15-20 years left.

It's why I laugh when Carney proposes a high speed rail link between Toronto and Montreal, it would take a couple of centuries to build.

Some cities and countries are inept, they can no longer build anything because of the bureaucracy and the need for consensus from 100000 different interest groups.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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post #21

Coming from Germany I found it funny how tiny the subway lines are in major cities in the US compared to medium-sized cities here. I always thought Germany was a country centered a lot around cars but it was so much more extreme in the states; seemed not possible to live in a city(!) without a car.

Depends on the city. In LA, yes it’s very hard to live without a car. I live in Seattle and I live car free as well as many of my friends. It’s not that we can’t afford it, we’ve just built our lives around transit and biking and the city is pretty good for it. Then of course there’s NYC, which is likely better than most European cities for transit. But you’re right that the average here is far far worse when it comes to transit and living car free or car lite.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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post #3

God it's frustrating how slow making these rail transits has been. The D line was literally planned out back in the 1960s and it took this long? I understand the plethora of problems the engineers faced when completing this. But I find it funny that once the World Cup was planned to be in LA, that's when LA leadership expedited all the legal and corporate hurdles in order to make sure we don't have another carmagetto…

Some of this was covered in the article, but it’s not actually Los Angeles’ leadership’s fault (rare praise for a city I love and call home), it was shovel-ready and funded to be built in the 80s. Then there was a ballot measure due to ongoing construction problems of a separate line in the 80s that banned tunneling in Los Angeles. This wasn’t overturned until 2007! Then Beverly Hills (which is also not part of Los A…

Glad to hear it.

An underground K-Line extension was recently approved to go through my neighborhood. This is after a small handful of 2-3 homeowners caused it to be delayed by 18 months over objections that seismic activity from drilling would be noticeable under their homes.

The city spent a year doing a study and report to appease the concerns of these residents, who - when presented with this extensive report showing that it would NOT be noticeable - proceeded to disregard the opinion of the city engineers and continue blocking it with the help of the Mayor, who is a friend.

Thankfully their objections were finally outvoted. West Hollywood had put up several billion in matching funds to pay for the extension, and if things had continued to drag on, the offer would have expired and jeopardized the entire project.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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post #6
post #3

God it's frustrating how slow making these rail transits has been. The D line was literally planned out back in the 1960s and it took this long? I understand the plethora of problems the engineers faced when completing this. But I find it funny that once the World Cup was planned to be in LA, that's when LA leadership expedited all the legal and corporate hurdles in order to make sure we don't have another carmagetto…

Yeah... Kinda like how Paris used the Olympics to get the political willpower to cleanup the river. City's trying to brand themselves and look good on a global stage does funny things.

Or like how San Francisco got rid of all the homeless people when Xi Jinping came to visit in 2023.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/san-francisco-mocked-china-mo...

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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post #21

Coming from Germany I found it funny how tiny the subway lines are in major cities in the US compared to medium-sized cities here. I always thought Germany was a country centered a lot around cars but it was so much more extreme in the states; seemed not possible to live in a city(!) without a car.

Depends on the city. In LA, yes it’s very hard to live without a car. I live in Seattle and I live car free as well as many of my friends. It’s not that we can’t afford it, we’ve just built our lives around transit and biking and the city is pretty good for it. Then of course there’s NYC, which is likely better than most European cities for transit. But you’re right that the average here is far far worse when it come…

In the states if you want to live car free you can but you need to be strategic in where you live within a city. I have lived in a few from east to west coast, suburbs to urban. By selecting your place in a city carefully you can go car free or mostly car free.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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Ride the D? Wow

That's actually the official slogan by LA Metro: https://shop.metro.net/collections/ride-the-d And someone even created a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_D It's LA.

There was a similar case in Seattle with the South Lake Union Trolley, which was quickly renamed to South Lake Union Streetcar, once T-shirts pointing out the unfortunate acronym started drawing attention. This one is clearly deliberate though.

Re: Riding the D in Los Angeles: city hopes new subway stations will be game changer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually the official slogan by LA Metro: https://shop.metro.net/collections/ride-the-d And someone even created a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_D It's LA.

Yeah, that's ridiculous

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