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Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

Windchaser wrote: post #11
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also got it wrong in their explanation. To Americans, jelly is jam with the fruit bits filtered out, leading to a homogeneous spread. Jam has crushed fruit, giving it a thicker, uneven texture, and preserves are whole-ass pieces of fruit boiled down in syrup. Marmalade is jam with citrus rinds. As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

> As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Surely you mean ascending! Preserves > marmalade & jam > jelly I want maximal fruit flavor for combination with my peanut butter. Which makes me consider other options. Peanut butter and banana is a classic, ofc, but should I try even-more-concentrated fruits? Fruit jerky? Dried mangos? But then the textu…

This is very much a personal preference thing, I suppose. When I make a PB&J, I want no pieces of fruit whatsoever. Jam is acceptable but not preferred, while preserves are too chunky and I would just not make a PB&J at that point. Marmalade I do not use for anything because I find the bitter flavor to be extremely unpleasant.

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

walthamstow wrote: post #10
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also got it wrong in their explanation. To Americans, jelly is jam with the fruit bits filtered out, leading to a homogeneous spread. Jam has crushed fruit, giving it a thicker, uneven texture, and preserves are whole-ass pieces of fruit boiled down in syrup. Marmalade is jam with citrus rinds. As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Jam can be smooth in Britain too, the cheap ones usually are. The opposite, with chunks of fruit, is conserve. In all my years of watching TV, I've never heard an American say the word jam, it must not be very popular compared to jelly.

Jam is more popular than jelly, in my experience, but (as OkayPhysicist said) many people use the word "jelly" incorrectly to mean any kind of fruit spread.

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by matthewowen »

abanana wrote: post #17
walthamstow wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jam can be smooth in Britain too, the cheap ones usually are. The opposite, with chunks of fruit, is conserve. In all my years of watching TV, I've never heard an American say the word jam, it must not be very popular compared to jelly.

Regarding Britain, "conserve" used to mean posh jam, but nowadays it seems to be more of a marketing word - a brand trying to pretend they're posh, similar to how pretentious restaurants use French words for no obvious reason. "Smooth jam" here in the UK is sometimes labelled as jelly, like this kind of thing: https://www.ocado.com/products/tiptree-blackberry-jelly/1053...

interestingly, i think there's also a u vs non-u thing here: jam is a u word, preserve is non-u

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #7
cactusplant7374 wrote: post #2

Nailing anything to the wall depends on the properties of said thing.

If you're going to quote Abraham Lincoln, you should at least give credit

I didn't know this was a Lincoln quote. I just thought of it randomly. I suppose it's possible I read it when I was younger but I'm not a big reader when it comes to history.

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by dhosek »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #9
dhosek wrote: post #6

I was a bit surprised to discover the whole jelly-jello language thing. I’d always assumed when people spoke of nailing jelly to a wall that they were talking about something jam-like, not jello-like. I’ve not done the experiments, but I would assume attempting the former would be much less successful.

They also got it wrong in their explanation. To Americans, jelly is jam with the fruit bits filtered out, leading to a homogeneous spread. Jam has crushed fruit, giving it a thicker, uneven texture, and preserves are whole-ass pieces of fruit boiled down in syrup. Marmalade is jam with citrus rinds. As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

I think in colloquial American English, there’s a lot of mixing up of terms and most Americans (myself included) would just call all of these jelly.

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by ryanchants »

Windchaser wrote: post #11
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also got it wrong in their explanation. To Americans, jelly is jam with the fruit bits filtered out, leading to a homogeneous spread. Jam has crushed fruit, giving it a thicker, uneven texture, and preserves are whole-ass pieces of fruit boiled down in syrup. Marmalade is jam with citrus rinds. As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

> As listed here, they are sorted in descending desirability for inclusion in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Surely you mean ascending! Preserves > marmalade & jam > jelly I want maximal fruit flavor for combination with my peanut butter. Which makes me consider other options. Peanut butter and banana is a classic, ofc, but should I try even-more-concentrated fruits? Fruit jerky? Dried mangos? But then the textu…

When making a PB&J, I want just enough to jelly to add a little flavor to the peanut butter. Which is why my dad always called them "choke sandwiches" when I made them.

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by migc »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #25
not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're going to quote Abraham Lincoln, you should at least give credit

I didn't know this was a Lincoln quote. I just thought of it randomly. I suppose it's possible I read it when I was younger but I'm not a big reader when it comes to history.

If you're going to quote Abraham Lincoln, you should at least give credit

Re: Nailing jelly to a wall: is it possible? (2005)

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Post by nephihaha »

abanana wrote: post #17
walthamstow wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jam can be smooth in Britain too, the cheap ones usually are. The opposite, with chunks of fruit, is conserve. In all my years of watching TV, I've never heard an American say the word jam, it must not be very popular compared to jelly.

Regarding Britain, "conserve" used to mean posh jam, but nowadays it seems to be more of a marketing word - a brand trying to pretend they're posh, similar to how pretentious restaurants use French words for no obvious reason. "Smooth jam" here in the UK is sometimes labelled as jelly, like this kind of thing: https://www.ocado.com/products/tiptree-blackberry-jelly/1053...

"Jeelie" is the old Scots term for jam by the way, so "jelly" does/did have currency here.
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