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What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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These sorts of articles just seem silly to me. Use AI where it helps you and avoid where it doesn't. That dividing line may change week to week. I think it's great for writing tests and sanity checking changes but wouldn't let it write core driver code(I'm a systems programmer so YMMV). Maybe in a month I'll think differently.

Using a tool as a tool is hard when the market is telling you to use it in everything as if it’s the new sliced bread.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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> the accumulated gap between a system’s evolving structure and a team’s shared understanding of how and why that system works and can be changed over time

That just sounds like everyone is going to be management. Blindly setting goals and demanding features of a black box, formerly the development team, soon to be 'AI' agents.

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post #17

Cognitive Debt has existed much earlier before LLMs became mainstream. Technical people got good at their jobs and then was promoted to management. After time they lost their technical abilities but if they are a good manager they kept up to date with the technological landscape and used their engineering thinking to ensure that the people below them worked to their optimum efficiency to achieve the companies goals.…

While this isn't a unique perspective, I think it's wild more people don't understand this. What happened is everyone is being "promoted" to staff+ level engineer and they're realizing the realities of that situation.

The funny part is that these are the same people who are upset that these folks up the food chain "do nothing".

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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It is a bit surprising sometimes when you vibe code an AI tool and it ends up doing a bunch of regular expressions to "detect the user's intention". Instead of the code using an LLM to see which tool to run, or if they want to see the SQL or the code you end up seeing .*SQL or \i^build (or some crazy regex). It really likes to use a lot of regex when it's building AI tools.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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> the accumulated gap between a system’s evolving structure and a team’s shared understanding of how and why that system works and can be changed over time That just sounds like everyone is going to be management. Blindly setting goals and demanding features of a black box, formerly the development team, soon to be 'AI' agents.

I mean that's already happened. Everyone is expected to be a manager of agents. Anyone not doing this is programming for hobby.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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post #3

I find it disconcerting that an article about cognitive debt contains many "tells" of being written by AI.

I had the same reaction, but the article is not AI-generated according to pangram, which I've generally found reliable. I wonder if LLM turns of phrase and even thought patterns are creeping into normal human thought.

It's worth mentioning pangram is more confident in it's positive detections than it's negative ones, as stated by the founder in an interview on the most recent ThursdAI episode

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same reaction, but the article is not AI-generated according to pangram, which I've generally found reliable. I wonder if LLM turns of phrase and even thought patterns are creeping into normal human thought.

Or, stay with me here, the LLMs were trained on how we, statistically, write.

There are typical LLM voices and styles, just like human writers have differentiated voices and styles. And some common elements of the typical LLM style are distinct from humans I've previously read.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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For my entire career, most of the people working on the systems I've worked on have not known how the systems work. Sometimes a few people learn a great deal about the system. They are spoken of in hushed tones, as one would a powerful mage, or witch. However, never in my entire career did anyone complain about the fact that nobody knew how the system worked. Most people never noticed it, much less cared once they found out. "This is just how things are. Business as usual."

AI is making people afraid as they run into these things. It's a little sad that they don't have the historical context or perspective to realize these are old problems. I imagine this is what Samurai felt like as flintlock guns came in and completely upended hundreds of years of martial tradition. How will they be able to defend themselves if they don't learn Kenjutsu? What will happen to our Bushido?

And I do think the fear is warranted. But I don't think people are going to act differently once they realize this unfortunate status quo hasn't yet led to the collapse of civilization, or their paychecks. Once the fear has passed, we will move on into the new normal, willfully ignorant and mildly disappointed.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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post #17

Cognitive Debt has existed much earlier before LLMs became mainstream. Technical people got good at their jobs and then was promoted to management. After time they lost their technical abilities but if they are a good manager they kept up to date with the technological landscape and used their engineering thinking to ensure that the people below them worked to their optimum efficiency to achieve the companies goals.…

This, and I would even say we are promoting people to be kings and queens. I'm afraid AI will amplify our worst parts because they are ultimately sycophants. I've heard so many things about AI enabling a single person to run a billion dollar business. But I believe without the right mindset/discipline, a person cannot go too far with any technology.

Re: What I'm Hearing About Cognitive Debt (So Far)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same reaction, but the article is not AI-generated according to pangram, which I've generally found reliable. I wonder if LLM turns of phrase and even thought patterns are creeping into normal human thought.

Or, stay with me here, the LLMs were trained on how we, statistically, write.

Anytime I see “this is not just x, it’s y” i can almost guarantee with high degree of confidence that slop was used.
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