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White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
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#22Um, I realize the Trump administration doesn't pay a lot of attention to what it does and does not have authority to do, but I'm having trouble imagining what they'd even claim their authority was...
Ever see the old Twilight Zone episode with the 6-year-old kid who wishes you into the cornfield if you don't do what he says?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life_(The_Twilig...
That's his authority.
Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
#23I have many questions. How would A/B testing work in the scenario where models need to be approved by the government before release? All the big providers commonly a/b test their unreleased models on production traffic. Would these need to be preapproved? Many models get tested on the public for every one that is officially "released". Will the government have the bandwidth to examine each of these? Does changing the system prompt count as a different model or only model weights?
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#24China doesn't require permission from the White House.
Mind elaborating instead of vague posting? Are you saying that China is already doing that vetting or that China will benefit because they can release models faster without having to be blocked by WH vetting?
Not the OP, but:
- China is the largest open weight provider, with Mistral and Cohere delivering a few other models. There isn’t much else internationally
- (I think OP is suggesting) this would effectively ban Chinese models in the US, which would be an interesting case. Who knows if they could have theirs reviewed, or if we’ll see another FCC approved router situation.
- that Chinese models are censored is a very common criticism. If American models are also censored that looks bad.
- this will be awful for self hosters and local inference. Imagine if HuggingFace had to drop non-American model weights. That would effectively kill them.
Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
#25I have many questions. How would A/B testing work in the scenario where models need to be approved by the government before release? All the big providers commonly a/b test their unreleased models on production traffic. Would these need to be preapproved? Many models get tested on the public for every one that is officially "released". Will the government have the bandwidth to examine each of these? Does changing the…
You just perfectly highlighted why over-regulation in tech is troublesome. This is why I've always been against European tech regulations which gave us the cookie prompt. Politicians shouldn't be product designers.
Edit: I'll take the downvotes. Every time I say this, I get downvoted. Weirdly, even EU politicians are beginning to see that they've over regulated their tech industry so much that it can't compete but HN just can't accept this opinion.
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#26"The National Security Agency has also recently used Anthropic’s Mythos model to assess vulnerabilities in the U.S. government’s software, people with knowledge of the work said."
I'm sure that's not the only thing they've used it for. Definitely looking for any exploit they can use to enhance data gathering, and cracking into IOS, private networks, etc. Gotta keep an eye on citizens, but hey, it's the only government body that really listens you.
at this point it almost seems like citizens should review AI models before the government can access them.
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#27A worst case scenario I feel is that the government could restrict inference providers within the US to run only approved/American LLMs, which would be a huge deal since the only recent American OSS model is Gemma. I could see OpenAI/Anthropic/Google lobbying for that though…
Let’s hope. It would be great for Europe and the rest of the world.
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#28What specifically is the goal of the pre-release review? Just to patch government systems first? Seems like the government was banning internal use of anthropic's models 2 months ago and now wants exclusive access for some amount of time. Clown show...
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mind elaborating instead of vague posting? Are you saying that China is already doing that vetting or that China will benefit because they can release models faster without having to be blocked by WH vetting?
Not the OP, but: - China is the largest open weight provider, with Mistral and Cohere delivering a few other models. There isn’t much else internationally - (I think OP is suggesting) this would effectively ban Chinese models in the US, which would be an interesting case. Who knows if they could have theirs reviewed, or if we’ll see another FCC approved router situation. - that Chinese models are censored is a very c…
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Re: White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released
#30A worst case scenario I feel is that the government could restrict inference providers within the US to run only approved/American LLMs, which would be a huge deal since the only recent American OSS model is Gemma. I could see OpenAI/Anthropic/Google lobbying for that though…
They know very well that China is going to keep releasing world class models at 1/20th the price and 5-300x smaller in size. They also know they screwed up by going full technofacism and there's no way back because of the trillions invested in oligarchs and it endangers the entire economy.