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Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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GenerWork wrote: post #13
idle_zealot wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you mean by "fool". These aren't real events, there's no such thing as an indisputable timeline outside of the context of an individual work. If Disney wants to make Star Wars movies set in a world where the sequel trilogy didn't happen, what's wrong with that, other than it potentially being confusing to viewers?

The article says that Disney wants to move the current sequels to a brand new timeline which implies that this new timeline is an official timeline in the sense that it's blessed by Disney, but it's not the timeline that most people would consider to be the official timeline, aka the timeline where the original and sequel trilogies happened. It's basically Disney going "Well, we can't ditch this, but it kinda sorta h…

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Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by Supermancho »

idle_zealot wrote: post #10
GenerWork wrote: post #3

It's one thing to make a bunch of stinkers, but then to pretend that said stinkers were in a completely alternate timeline through some sleight of hand retconning is absolutely bonkers and will fool approximately zero people. Let's hope that this is just what it claims to be: a rumor.

I'm not sure what you mean by "fool". These aren't real events, there's no such thing as an indisputable timeline outside of the context of an individual work. If Disney wants to make Star Wars movies set in a world where the sequel trilogy didn't happen, what's wrong with that, other than it potentially being confusing to viewers?

Indeed, a story is whatever the viewer wants it to be, because it's fiction. Disney marketing and time are effective brain-o. Nobody will care in a couple decades, other than the niche watchers of the "real story behind Star Wars Disney".

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by suburban_strike »

jerf wrote: post #11

I still think even now they could print money if they'd just do an honest adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy. Even with all the damage they've done to the brand. It's what they probably should have done from day one. I'm not saying the Thrawn trilogy is like the highest art ever made. It's glorious pop schlock fun, as Star Wars should be. But it reminds me of the way that manga is so often treated as storyboards for th…

Even Shadows of the Empire as a standalone movie would be a breath of something new and fun.

Maybe not the highest art ever but both were solid stories memorable enough for us to remember decades later. Thrawn was a respectable villain. We weren't supposed to like him but couldn't deny his competence.

Of memorable blue people, for comparison I've watched Avatar twice and don't remember a thing about it.

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by tencentshill »

jerf wrote: post #11

I still think even now they could print money if they'd just do an honest adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy. Even with all the damage they've done to the brand. It's what they probably should have done from day one. I'm not saying the Thrawn trilogy is like the highest art ever made. It's glorious pop schlock fun, as Star Wars should be. But it reminds me of the way that manga is so often treated as storyboards for th…

But then they would have to negotiate the rights to the books! Disney can't afford to buy the rights to a massive property like that.

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by randycupertino »

I'm surprised Mando and Grogu is testing so poorly. Maybe I'm a nerd but I was very excited for it!

> The Mandalorian and Grogu is currently tracking for around an $80 million domestic opening over Memorial Day weekend—a number that would make it the lowest debut in Star Wars theatrical history.

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by yongjik »

ramesh31 wrote: post #15
jerf wrote: post #11

I still think even now they could print money if they'd just do an honest adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy. Even with all the damage they've done to the brand. It's what they probably should have done from day one. I'm not saying the Thrawn trilogy is like the highest art ever made. It's glorious pop schlock fun, as Star Wars should be. But it reminds me of the way that manga is so often treated as storyboards for th…

>"I still think even now they could print money if they'd just do an honest adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy. Even with all the damage they've done to the brand." They could print money by just having Bob Iger stand silently in front of a camera flipping off the audience for two hours and calling it Star Wars. Every one of those films were profitable. They'll keep doing it, and people will keep paying for it.

It would be also a more coherent story than what we got in the sequels.

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by rendleflag »

The biggest problem is fans. They want to re-experience what they had when they first saw it, then get mad when the movies don't live up to their past experience. I was 7 when Star Wars came out. I had all the toys. I saw the movie a dozen times. It was an experience. As an adult, when I watch to again, I think “wow, this is really not good.” The special effects hold up , but the acting, the dialog, the pacing is all “meh”. When i compare it to the new movies, it’s the same. They are just not good.

And of course Disney wants to recapture the money bonanza that was generated by the original trilogy, but if they do anything that angers the fans, it get boycotted. If they try to stick with the original patterns, it gets called a remake. They are in a lose/lose situation.

Ultimately the fans need to let the nostalgia go and let the current generation build their own favorite movies instead of being told this or that franchise is the best.

Re: Rumor: Disney to Remove Star Wars Sequel Trilogy from Timeline

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Post by Nevermark »

The best places for a timeline redirection would be any time in the interval 2006-2014 (easiest), or in 1984-1998 (most satisfying).

A clever solution is to do the former, in a way that allows for a later consistent adoption of the latter.

While this requires older fans to retcon many years of their own lives, I think we can all agree this will be a small price to pay. Disassociation can be an adaptive response to trauma.

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