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The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Obviously just performative signalling that doesn't really do much. You can't definitively tell if AI was used, so the rule can never realistically be enforced. Then again, the Oscars are surely almost entirely vibes based anyway. So it's hardly some internally consistent system of merit in the first place.

I wish we could stop the slide of the term "performative" into meaninglessness. Just because something is hard or even impossible to enforce, doesn't mean you don't state that it is not allowed and that there are consequences for being caught. That's a common fallacy that overly engineering-minded people fall into. We're humans. We care about things. There is nothing strange about me asking you not to do something th…

There is absolutely no fallacy in the statement you're responding to. Laws are meaningless if they cannot be consistently enforced.

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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post #2

Obviously just performative signalling that doesn't really do much. You can't definitively tell if AI was used, so the rule can never realistically be enforced. Then again, the Oscars are surely almost entirely vibes based anyway. So it's hardly some internally consistent system of merit in the first place.

It prevents anyone from blatantly using AI. If they want to use it anyway and risk getting found out, sure. That's still a big difference.

Can you explain how an Oscar-worthy piece of writing would somehow be able to contain blatant AI-generated content? How would it have already passed the good-enough-for-an-Oscar filter?

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Obvious decision for any institution with at least a modicum of artistic self-respect.

agreed, as AI is more widely adopted in cinematography i assume they will start adding categories specifically for it... hate the idea of them ever competing directly against actual humans performing

They already have categories for animation and post visual effects. They just don't necessarily show those awards during the broadcast

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It prevents anyone from blatantly using AI. If they want to use it anyway and risk getting found out, sure. That's still a big difference.

Can you explain how an Oscar-worthy piece of writing would somehow be able to contain blatant AI-generated content? How would it have already passed the good-enough-for-an-Oscar filter?

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Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Good. The intangibles of art are undeniable. - emotional connection - aesthetics - zeitgeist - lived experience - artist journey You're free to fall in love with your sexbot, but it's still just jerking off.

And what is falling in love with an actor? Not jerking off?

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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post #2

Obviously just performative signalling that doesn't really do much. You can't definitively tell if AI was used, so the rule can never realistically be enforced. Then again, the Oscars are surely almost entirely vibes based anyway. So it's hardly some internally consistent system of merit in the first place.

I guess the Best Visual Effects category is going to be tough to judge, but don't you think it might be quite hard to win the Best Actress Academy Award if your AI-generated heroine can't come get the trophy?

Also, "truth" is a thing that exists, and just because you can't always tell if somebody cheated the rules or not, does not mean the rules are "performative signalling".

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish we could stop the slide of the term "performative" into meaninglessness. Just because something is hard or even impossible to enforce, doesn't mean you don't state that it is not allowed and that there are consequences for being caught. That's a common fallacy that overly engineering-minded people fall into. We're humans. We care about things. There is nothing strange about me asking you not to do something th…

There is absolutely no fallacy in the statement you're responding to. Laws are meaningless if they cannot be consistently enforced.

Actually, laws can be really effective even if they are only enforced intermittently.

Re: The Oscars just banned AI from winning acting and writing awards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish we could stop the slide of the term "performative" into meaninglessness. Just because something is hard or even impossible to enforce, doesn't mean you don't state that it is not allowed and that there are consequences for being caught. That's a common fallacy that overly engineering-minded people fall into. We're humans. We care about things. There is nothing strange about me asking you not to do something th…

There is absolutely no fallacy in the statement you're responding to. Laws are meaningless if they cannot be consistently enforced.

That just doesn't follow.
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