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Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by OutOfHere »

abustamam wrote: post #7
OutOfHere wrote: post #2

People need to do their best to stop paying so much in taxes to their state governments, failing which the governments get increasingly authoritarian. The state governments clearly have run out of real problems to solve, and when they do, they then attack basic freedoms. Keeping them strongly tax-constrained keeps them lean. As it stands, these governments are representing special interests, not the people. It doesn'…

You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.

Outside of a W-2 salary, there are ways, more applicable to businesses, also to independent contractors. Even for those with a salary, they ought to do their best to collect all the legally qualified benefits that they can.

Lots of independent contractors get paid as W-2 when they could be getting paid as a corp, for which they could write off a portion of the taxes via deductibles and in various other ways.

Lots of people could be ordering online at websites that don't deduct a sales tax. Instead, they pay a substantial amount in sales tax.

Using a Delaware corp for various transactions can also go a long way.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by j0yb0y »

OutOfHere wrote: post #2

People need to do their best to stop paying so much in taxes to their state governments, failing which the governments get increasingly authoritarian. The state governments clearly have run out of real problems to solve, and when they do, they then attack basic freedoms. Keeping them strongly tax-constrained keeps them lean. As it stands, these governments are representing special interests, not the people. It doesn'…

Representing special interests != too much tax money. Orthogonal. It’s a mind boggling leap.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by abustamam »

righthand wrote: post #11

> It also prohibits covered websites from sharing instructions on how to use a VPN to bypass age checks. This country is led by idiots that do not enjoy or like freedom.

Correction — rules for thee, freedom for me.

The people who lead our country love their own freedoms, as long as it allows them to infringe on everyone else's freedoms.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by OutOfHere »

j0yb0y wrote: post #23
OutOfHere wrote: post #2

People need to do their best to stop paying so much in taxes to their state governments, failing which the governments get increasingly authoritarian. The state governments clearly have run out of real problems to solve, and when they do, they then attack basic freedoms. Keeping them strongly tax-constrained keeps them lean. As it stands, these governments are representing special interests, not the people. It doesn'…

Representing special interests != too much tax money. Orthogonal. It’s a mind boggling leap.

The tax money is a prerequisite for strong enforcement. Without an excess in tax money, there isn't going to be substantial enforcement. Think ahead.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by functionmouse »

abustamam wrote: post #7
OutOfHere wrote: post #2

People need to do their best to stop paying so much in taxes to their state governments, failing which the governments get increasingly authoritarian. The state governments clearly have run out of real problems to solve, and when they do, they then attack basic freedoms. Keeping them strongly tax-constrained keeps them lean. As it stands, these governments are representing special interests, not the people. It doesn'…

You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.

so it's okay because we're just following orders?

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by dandellion »

abustamam wrote: post #7
OutOfHere wrote: post #2

People need to do their best to stop paying so much in taxes to their state governments, failing which the governments get increasingly authoritarian. The state governments clearly have run out of real problems to solve, and when they do, they then attack basic freedoms. Keeping them strongly tax-constrained keeps them lean. As it stands, these governments are representing special interests, not the people. It doesn'…

You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.

Only if you're poor, the rich don't pay taxes just fine.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by abustamam »

kordlessagain wrote: post #20
abustamam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.

Stop paying so much is not the same as not paying. Why are you making it otherwise?

Oh OK, thanks for clarifying that I can pay less than I owe and be scot free.

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by sammy2255 »

dgrin91 wrote: post #22
eu wrote: post #10

is this even doable/enforceble?

Sure, it would force sites to block traffic from vpns. The fun part is when you post videos of yourself using a vpn to go to gov website or the candidate website and watch them do nothing

That's called complying, not enforcing

Re: Utah to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs

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Post by wat10000 »

nephihaha wrote: post #15
bryan_w wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder who's in common there?

They obviously get the ideas from the same sources. Somewhere they don't invite ordinary people to like Davos or other conferences.

Could just be monkey see monkey do.
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