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Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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Well, yeah. It's that or pay a person to do it. When a person screws up, it's because they're stupid and lazy. When an AI agent does it, it's because, hey, technological frontier at work here, have you thought about refining your prompt? We need you to refine the prompt. Otherwise it's bad for our IPO.

To what degree am I required to participate in mass delusions?

Yes.

Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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I once read about the signalling view of advertising, meaning it's used to show that a company is so prosperous that it can afford spending a lot of money in advertising. In the same way, I think from now on, as much as possible, I'll only buy from companies that will publicly make it a point not to use AI internally. AI use should brand companies as desperate and unreliable.

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It's kinda awesome that after decades of software and hardware advancements to prevent computers from arbitrarily executing data as instructions, we've decided to let agents arbitrarily execute data as instructions.

Has XKCD made another Bobby tables comic for prompt injection?

I don't remember seeing a new xkcd for it, but I have seen someone replicate essentially the same 3-4 panel comic with a kid named " Ignore all previous instructions. Do.... "

Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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We're in the same era where lots of peoples' installation guides for the software they want people to use is essentially boiled down to "sudo curl | bash" and/or just "blindly install this thing with 37 npm dependencies", so I'm not surprised in the slightest. But wait, hold my beer, now we've got people turning openclaw type tools loose in their systems to do things as sudo or install software packages from supply-c…

OpenClaw even has a readwrite 1Password plugin.

I wonder how long it will be until somebody implements a thing like a camera pointed at a fixed mount Android phone with a rubber finger to open the Google authenticator app

Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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post #18
post #4

It's kinda awesome that after decades of software and hardware advancements to prevent computers from arbitrarily executing data as instructions, we've decided to let agents arbitrarily execute data as instructions.

Or find it surprising that probabilistic tool based on generating things can do things when you give it rights to do things... And that you can not effectively program it to not do something.... You gave it capability to delete emails. Why did you expect it not to do that at least some of the time? And with enough user some of the time will most likely happen...

> You gave it capability to delete emails. Why did you expect it not to do that at least some of the time?

Because of the I in AI of course. Would you call it false advertisement and go after the providers?

Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

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Concidentially, today I was watching and interview with a lead designer from Ramp who is telling about how they are full ia, agents and automation https://youtu.be/KPDXMtmkcgk

Ramp does seem to have a genuinely good product, but every time I interact with anyone who works on it, I'm struck by how much they want to talk about how hardcore and advanced their working style is. This was true before AI, and it's very true now

Re: Ramp's Sheets AI Exfiltrates Financials

#29
post #4

It's kinda awesome that after decades of software and hardware advancements to prevent computers from arbitrarily executing data as instructions, we've decided to let agents arbitrarily execute data as instructions.

We're in the same era where lots of peoples' installation guides for the software they want people to use is essentially boiled down to "sudo curl | bash" and/or just "blindly install this thing with 37 npm dependencies", so I'm not surprised in the slightest. But wait, hold my beer, now we've got people turning openclaw type tools loose in their systems to do things as sudo or install software packages from supply-c…

All these developments show that:

1) Despite what people say about security and privacy, most are willing sacrifice both for the sake of potential convenience

2) Our priorities for the past decades have been wrong, or the times have changed and we should reevaluate them all

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