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Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Absurd fiction" aka "established law for decades." This concept of "serialized part" is a construct stemming from Democrat-established legislation. What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

I think you know that you're deploying the "neener neener" strategy on me and I'm not interested in engaging with it.

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Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Absurd fiction" aka "established law for decades." This concept of "serialized part" is a construct stemming from Democrat-established legislation. What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

I think you know that you're deploying the "neener neener" strategy on me and I'm not interested in engaging with it.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/rule_of_lenity

If one wants to make something illegal, the onus is on the lawmaker to write precise legislation. This is centuries-old legal doctrine.

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

#24
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Neener neener" seems to be working out well for the gun rights advocates in the source article, who enjoy the absurd fiction that a lower receiver is a firearm and the entire assembly they attach on top of it is just "gun parts".

"Absurd fiction" aka "established law for decades." This concept of "serialized part" is a construct stemming from Democrat-established legislation. What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

Which part of "well-regulated militia" is difficult to understand? ;)

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Absurd fiction" aka "established law for decades." This concept of "serialized part" is a construct stemming from Democrat-established legislation. What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

Which part of "well-regulated militia" is difficult to understand? ;)

Basic English skills? Why would the prefatory clause limit the latter? Even the most left-leaning [current] SCOTUS justices didn't/don't attempt to make this argument.

'A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.'

Whose rights shall not be infringed here, the breakfast's or those of the people?

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

#26
post #4

Ok, so those bills in NY and WA about making it illegal to sell printers that don't detect firearm parts are dead in the water, right?

It will be fine to print a gun but there will be laws outlawing your ability to print an iphone case and printers will have to detect parts from any registered manufacturer. So we will get the worst of all worlds. printers only for guns and not for people to build useful things.

You just need a gun design that has a part that can double as an iphone case...

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

#27
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Absurd fiction" aka "established law for decades." This concept of "serialized part" is a construct stemming from Democrat-established legislation. What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?

I think you know that you're deploying the "neener neener" strategy on me and I'm not interested in engaging with it.

"Established law for decades" seems to me to be almost the opposite of "neener neener", which I take to be more along the lines of "cutesy legal tricks".

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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You don’t actually need a VIN on a car, you just won’t be able to register and drive a VINless car on public roads. Some states seem to have designated even private roads as “public” if there is uncontrolled access (seems ripe for a court challenge though). But offroading or gated roads would be fine even here. Some YouTubers have fun importing cheap Chinese cars that aren’t street legal and destroying them with extr…

Car/traffic laws don't apply on personal property (Though noise ordinances still would), but that won't stop cops from trying to ticket you anyways. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/dep350/receive...

FWIW: this isn't a universally-applicable statement, plenty of states forbid DWI during any and all operation of motor vehicles, including on private property.

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

#29
post #4

Ok, so those bills in NY and WA about making it illegal to sell printers that don't detect firearm parts are dead in the water, right?

It will be fine to print a gun but there will be laws outlawing your ability to print an iphone case and printers will have to detect parts from any registered manufacturer. So we will get the worst of all worlds. printers only for guns and not for people to build useful things.

Unjustified cynicism aside, the same technical reasons that a ban on printing gun parts is infeasible apply to printing iphone cases. There's no feasible way to detect what a printer is printing.

Re: Court Rules 2nd Amendment Covers Firearms Parts Good News Those Who Build Guns

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post #8

Who knew that the "well ackshually, technically, we're not banning guns, we're just requiring a serial number! (one that you cannot legally apply)" strategy wouldn't work. "Neener neener neener" isn't a valid legal theory.

Those two things are in fact different. Does requiring a VIN on a car mean that cars are banned?

Do F1 cars have VINs? I’m pretty sure you don’t need a VIN on a car if it stays off public roads. Also driving is not a right enshrined by the constitution.
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