I've worked with these people. I noticed.
Yup, whenever someone asks "how many people work on your team?", I usually answer: "about one third..."
I did no work for a year and no one noticed
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#22Not everyone has a bullshit job. If I stopped working for even a couple of days, people would notice, and I would eventually get fired.
And if you want to divide up the world along a couple of axes into job usefulness and how much the worker cares, then the author of the article was in the “useless job and cared”, while you are in the quadrant of caring and have a useful job best I can tell — which is great. Some people have useless jobs and don’t care much about their job but are happy to get paid. If you for example are a teacher of small children who depend upon you and you basically don’t care then that’s problematic while having a BS job that you care about a lot about is probably mostly an organizational / bad management situation.
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#23This seems like a very stupid thing to put on the open Internet attached to your name
Isn't this illegal actually? Unsure in the US but I would bet it is in many countries. It feels deceptive/scammy.
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#24Congratulations you had a bullshit job, insufficient oversight and not enough personal and professional pride to do the work you were paid to do (a job is a promise, they promise to pay you and you promise to work. The fact that I have to say this kills me a little bit inside) You broke your promise and lied about it every day for a year. You proved that your career (that you presumably worked hard to build) was a fa…
> waaaahhhhh you broke your promise!! to your employer!! my current employer broke no fewer than two promises they had made to me within a few months of my starting there. they did this simply because they could: it was cheaper for them and they knew there was little I could do in response. so you'll forgive me if I don't give half a fuck about these people, and do as little work as i can get away with
This is really a poor mentality and is one of the reason employers particularly in Europe don't want to hire people anymore, many startups are doing everything they can to avoid hiring, exactly because of that kind of attitude, not even being grateful for a minute, idk, shitting on the person that feeds you seems just disrespectful and also, you should be acting like a professional, even when others are not.
I have multiple friends cheating their employers (who are actually not corporations) and working like 1h a day and delegating everything to AI instead and just plain lying about it, if you are paid per hour and not per task, then your duty is to ensure you'll make the company grow with the time they pay you to do, not scam them, I understand why people do it, but let's say what it really is: Scamming people.
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#25Something the author sorta neglects to mention is that this makes you feel like shit, if you have any sort of conscience at all. Corporations largely don't care about individuals, and so maybe you shouldn't care about loyalty to your employer, but if you pride yourself on a skill or being able to do your job competently then doing mass time theft comes up with a nasty side effect; the time you spend planning trips or…
not at all. the author, said he was getting his obligations done and making his boss's life easier. that's a win for both the employee, the boss and the company. why do you think it's morally acceptable for an employee to negotiate as toughly as possible for his/her salary but not for their time? It's all a negotiation process. the key thing is, he's meeting his agreed upon obligations. whether or not you do it effic…
I highly doubt OP was paid on "tasks" and not per hour, Logging hours you weren't actually working could be considered time theft or fraud
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#26This is just straight theft, and is completely unethical and immoral.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
not at all. the author, said he was getting his obligations done and making his boss's life easier. that's a win for both the employee, the boss and the company. why do you think it's morally acceptable for an employee to negotiate as toughly as possible for his/her salary but not for their time? It's all a negotiation process. the key thing is, he's meeting his agreed upon obligations. whether or not you do it effic…
I highly doubt OP was paid on "tasks" and not per hour, Logging hours you weren't actually working could be considered time theft or fraud
If you are salaried and can complete your tasks (job description) in under the alloted time, is the onus on you or your manager to find more tasks?
Why is ok for your employer to make you complete additional tasks, draining you of your excess energy, but not increasing your salary at all?
When there exists this productivity/energy gap, the default US view seems to be you should give it up to the employer, but the article author is instead keeping it for himself.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
maybe. i think the types of environments that foster the culture of bullshit jobs are bereft of conscience (ymmv as far as how you react to that in your own job). additionally, many people within those environments feel that scrutiny or lack of job security even when they play by the rules. something i've been thinking about a lot lately is that i don't feel very bad being cynical about these kinds of systems when th…
I don't disagree with your idea at all, just with the approach. I think if you exist within an environment where you can still thrive leeching off of an ineffective organization, and you're okay with this because you understand that they view you as an expendable asset, then the right thing to do isn't to just keep doing that; the right thing to do is find a better spot to work. All of this is easier said than done,…
I get all my fulfillment from outside of work, I am ok with having a 'bullshit' job which facilitates the rest of my very nice and enriching life.
I think also that 'bullshit jobs' are a side effect of large (not even ineffective) organisations. At a certain size, you end up with roles and abstractions that take you far away from what your employer actually produces/generates revenue from, and if you are in such a cost center it can be hard to see how your individual work is meaningful to the bottom line in any way.
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#29Unethical and unprofessional. Full stop. And then bragging about it.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I highly doubt OP was paid on "tasks" and not per hour, Logging hours you weren't actually working could be considered time theft or fraud
If you are salaried and can complete your tasks (job description) in under the alloted time, is the onus on you or your manager to find more tasks? Why is ok for your employer to make you complete additional tasks, draining you of your excess energy, but not increasing your salary at all? When there exists this productivity/energy gap, the default US view seems to be you should give it up to the employer, but the art…
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