The canal+ bumper jingle mentioned in the article goes incredibly hard. It's a shame we don't see anything like this on modern big tv. https://fabiensanglard.net/discret11/jingle_clear.mp4
The (current, I believe) BBC News jingle is a real banger.
Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
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Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#22Spaniard there. We didn't need C+ for anime as local regions with languages distinct to Spanish got original DB and several more animes (Captain Tsubasa, easy choice for Europe), Doraemon et all. In the 90's only the poshy people or university students (and OFC bars for soccer matches) could afford the monthly subscription. That was true until the mid-late 90's where cheap Avermedia TV tuners for PC (and Pentium MMX…
Most Animes in France were on TF1, not on canal+.
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#23The canal+ bumper jingle mentioned in the article goes incredibly hard. It's a shame we don't see anything like this on modern big tv. https://fabiensanglard.net/discret11/jingle_clear.mp4
The (current, I believe) BBC News jingle is a real banger.
for anyone out of the loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQNCCn5zIEM
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#24In Poland Canal+ was encrypted like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z83bIGiRVy4 I'm guessing it's a latter version?
Yeah, that's the Nagravision that the article mentions at the end. There were programs that could use a TV capture card and decode it in real time on a 486DX2. They worked pretty well (I felt ok using it because we already had Canal+ but it was on the living room TV and my computer was on the opposite side of the house.)
"meuh meuh TV" was a famous one
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#25Good memories on the #secafrance irc channel getting the update codes from time to time to reprogram the home made security cards for official 'decodeurs'
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#26Spaniard there. We didn't need C+ for anime as local regions with languages distinct to Spanish got original DB and several more animes (Captain Tsubasa, easy choice for Europe), Doraemon et all. In the 90's only the poshy people or university students (and OFC bars for soccer matches) could afford the monthly subscription. That was true until the mid-late 90's where cheap Avermedia TV tuners for PC (and Pentium MMX…
Most Animes in France were on TF1, not on canal+.
Canal+ had a few animes not suited for kids and a few others that didn't really fit the catalog from TF1 or TMC (which was mostly available south of France). Those 2 had volume, Canal+ had more "quality" ones.
I remember watching Akira, some DBZ movies, Evangelion, Vision of Escaflowne, Armitage III and many others!
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#27If you had enough motivation, you could learn to decode the picture by squinting, and understand the audio by enough exposure. That came very handy to many a teenager on late Saturday evenings.
I had friends who recorder the stream on VHS, thinking they could decoded it later by borrowing a decoder. Reportedly, it did not work.
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#28The canal+ bumper jingle mentioned in the article goes incredibly hard. It's a shame we don't see anything like this on modern big tv. https://fabiensanglard.net/discret11/jingle_clear.mp4
The (current, I believe) BBC News jingle is a real banger.
it's got nothing on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_nk8PzL0Zw
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#29If you had enough motivation, you could learn to decode the picture by squinting, and understand the audio by enough exposure. That came very handy to many a teenager on late Saturday evenings.
> That came very handy to many a teenager on late Saturday evenings. GP is referring to Canal+ who'd play that one weekly porn movie on saturday evening. Us kids from the eighties could watch like 30 seconds unencrypted, than the scrambling would start. We'd still watch the movie ; )
Where I lived the paytv encryption just removed the sync signals and audio and by finetuning the TV you could get a fairly clean black and white picture. It sounds similar to Discret 11 but it wasn't quite the same.
Only with a major scene change (eg day to night) this would need retuning. And this type of content didn't really do that, as most of these movies take place in the same bedroom :) so it was not a bad way to watch it.
Re: Discret 11, the French TV encryption of the 80s (2020)
#30> Piracy became rampant. Asking for "TBA 970" delay chips in electronic stores prompted employees to offer the full list required to build a "decodeur pirate". The encryption system was updated to Nagravision encryption in 1992 and Discret 11 was retired by 1995. We had one in the house. Very cheap and easy to get from north africa. Upgraded encryption was quickly matched with upgraded piracy. Then canalsat came alon…
> Seems like piracy never dies.
No I don't think it ever will.
A recent threat is the 'for your safety' bullshit like attestation, combined with closed down OSes like on mobile. But people will always find ways around.