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Hacker News: Unknown or Expired Link
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#22It's funny, if Hacker News was the product of a startup it would have been redesigned, A/B tested and tons of features/tweaks added. Any growth would be seen as the result of those actions, however HN has grown anyway despite being stagnent for 5+ years.
Makes you wonder what all the software development really achieves, or if HN would be bigger still if they had done that - or if PG wants HN to be bigger at all.
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#23I'm fairly certain HN itself isn't actively developed. If I remember correctly, there was quite a bit of teeth-gnashing over the state of password storage on HN awhile back, and it took the moving of mountains before things were changed (were they ever changed?).
Why would it be? It works well enough and it's not worth anything to add features. It's PG's experiment.
So the community here is PG's toy?
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#24I've wondered at times if PG isn't deliberately leaving this problem in place so that people who get annoyed by it are filtered out as users of the web site.
> I've wondered at times if PG isn't deliberately leaving this problem Since you know about the implementation(I haven't looked closely), won't it need a complete overhaul to take closures out of equation? Or implement some sort of closure serialization(on-disk maybe)? Is there a third option where pg just bangs at the keyboard for a couple of hours, and done?
Just a home link or a page with the banner would be nice, so you don't have to faff about with your browser to get back to the homepage.
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#25It's funny, if Hacker News was the product of a startup it would have been redesigned, A/B tested and tons of features/tweaks added. Any growth would be seen as the result of those actions, however HN has grown anyway despite being stagnent for 5+ years. Makes you wonder what all the software development really achieves, or if HN would be bigger still if they had done that - or if PG wants HN to be bigger at all.
Yip. I wonder if it makes more sense to focus on bd (for hn, this was building the YC brand) once you reach some measure of product market fit... Very interesting observation.
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#26http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3098756 > why wouldn't they use (searchable) permalinks? I'm assuming there's a reason for this, as its not the easiest way to do things. It's straight forward, but not when you are using closures and continuations.
As they're serving that they could easily serve a "this link has expired, view the new front page" with a link to the homepage and possibly a list of other top pages (like "new" or whatever).
Even if it's not going to be fixed then it could still be improved with, it seems, almost no work.
Mind you I've seen offers to fix it for free (requiring someone the owners trust to review the code I guess) that have apparently been rejected so it's presumably a chosen outcome.
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#27Those kind of links are a great irritation for me when browsing and reading HN. Instead of http://news.ycombinator.com/x?fnid=KnmhPyrF1t Why not for example: http://news.ycombinator.com/news?page=2 ?
Those kind of links are a great irritation for me when browsing and reading HN. My work around for the "unknown or expired link" bug is to open page 1 of HN, then immediately open pages 2, 3, and 4, but in separate tabs. That way, I never run afoul of that bug, and opening tabs is really easy in every modern browser. I'd be interested to know how other people work around the bug.
Whenever I see it, I just leave. If you drop by every day or so, the 2nd and 3rd pages tend to be pretty redundant anyway.
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#29It's funny, if Hacker News was the product of a startup it would have been redesigned, A/B tested and tons of features/tweaks added. Any growth would be seen as the result of those actions, however HN has grown anyway despite being stagnent for 5+ years. Makes you wonder what all the software development really achieves, or if HN would be bigger still if they had done that - or if PG wants HN to be bigger at all.
How are you measuring growth on HN? Userbase? Pageviews?
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#30Those kind of links are a great irritation for me when browsing and reading HN. Instead of http://news.ycombinator.com/x?fnid=KnmhPyrF1t Why not for example: http://news.ycombinator.com/news?page=2 ?
There is actually a http://news.ycombinator.com/news2 but I don't know in which cases it's linked from the front-page. I have seen it though, maybe it's at times with high traffic?
I think that it appears for users that are not logged in.