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1-Bit Hokusai's "The Great Wave" (2023)
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Japanese characters are actually written left to right, but sometimes the page order is right to left. Writing that you might find on a website, e-mails, and scientific writing is typically actually written left to right. While these kinds of texts may have pages that are ordered from right to left, the text on the pages is typically written from left to right. It is typically only when text is written vertically (yo…
You are right, but it can be argued that during the time the painting was made, vertical writing was the predominant form, and I don't know whether horizontal writing was a thing at the time in Japan... That said, as I implied in my other reply, the whole idea is a bit silly...
Japanese is currently read and written from left to right. However, until about 80 years ago (before World War II), it was read and written from right to left—though this applied only to horizontal writing. Vertical writing is read from right to left, and this convention continues today; for example, Japanese comics (manga) are still read from right to left.
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#24Curious about the "no derivatives" license. Surely anything derivative would be of the original now public domain art and not this. I do not see how this could as a practical matter be enforced. IANAL though.
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#25somebody explained me that the correct way to appreciate this painting is to invert it on horizontal axis. the reason is, japanese is read from right to left. once you invert it you can appreciate it better
Japanese characters are actually written left to right, but sometimes the page order is right to left. Writing that you might find on a website, e-mails, and scientific writing is typically actually written left to right. While these kinds of texts may have pages that are ordered from right to left, the text on the pages is typically written from left to right. It is typically only when text is written vertically (yo…
In the time this art was made, top to bottom, right to left was the standard. It's pretty apparent when looking at any document from the Edo era. It's all top to bottom, right to left. Remnants of it are also clear in temples where the signs above doorways are written right to left, not even top to bottom. Plus every Japanese novel and manga today is still written top to bottom right to left.
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#26Curious about the "no derivatives" license. Surely anything derivative would be of the original now public domain art and not this. I do not see how this could as a practical matter be enforced. IANAL though.
Well not if I take this 1 bit image and add my logo or remove his...
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#27More 1-bit pixel art:
> MacPaint Art From The Mid-80s Still Looks Great Today - https://blog.decryption.net.au/posts/macpaint.html
Previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44540402
This masterpiece by an unknown artist might be the best work of hi-res pixel art I have ever seen: https://blog.decryption.net.au/images/macpaint/lesson3d.png
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#28I am having a surprisingly hard time finding Hokusai's exercises on tesselations.
Has search become really this bad !
Anyway wanted to show his sketch of a bird behind chicken wire fence/cage. Similar birds here
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
... specifically, Japanese is traditionally written top to bottom, then right to left. (In contrast, English is written left to right, then top to bottom.) So, armed with that knowledge, are you going to rotate it as well?
If you are talking about page order or panel order (in something like manga), those go right to left. More specifically, manga panels follow the usual western comic book panel order, except with left and right flipped. However, when it comes to the actual text (regardless of the medium), it is always written either top to bottom or left to right. There is no right to left text writing in japanese. This isn't arabic,…
When written top to bottom, the columns are read from right to left. This is the most common format for printed text, especially in Hokusai's time.
Also, when text was horizontal, it was frequently written right to left until the mid-1940s.[1]
[1] https://www.mutantfrog.com/2009/08/08/the-history-of-japanes...
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#30Curious about the "no derivatives" license. Surely anything derivative would be of the original now public domain art and not this. I do not see how this could as a practical matter be enforced. IANAL though.
Public domain isn't "viral" like copyleft.
If I take something in the public domain and make a derivative work, the original remains in the public domain, and I retain ownership of whatever additions or modifications I created. So I can attach whatever conditions I want to the copying of those additions.
For instance, Disney's "Sleeping Beauty" was protected by copyright when it was released, even though it was based on a centuries-old fairy tale that was in the public domain.