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Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

This doesn’t affect existing users.

This is a simple supply and demand curve.

Higher demand means the price goes up .. this has been true of things since before SaaS and before computers

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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People will insist otherwise, but I haven't seen anything close to sonnet 4.6 that can be run locally.

I don't think anyone can honestly say a huge frontier model is actually going to be matched by something running on 64gb locally?

You don't have to use the most recent bleeding edge model to succeed. A local FOSS coding agent coupled with a reasonably priced LLM could yield the optimal ROI.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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post #6

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

You could judge the costs of the AI products you're using by the standard API pricing, not promotional subscription offers.

For me, it's not even cost necessarily. If they decide to change the product they offer, the old one is gone. I refuse to use anything for personal use that's not at least _available_ as model weights.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

#24

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

Are there local models that are anywhere near as good at coding as opus 4.6?

Not really. Qwen 3.5 and Gemma and a couple of others are quite good though, and the quants are _very_ runnable on a good gpu.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

#25
post #2

Maybe those already on $20 a month plans won't be nerfed much more? It's yet another austerity move, pretty much in line with the recent ones.

Maybe you should adapt your expectations for your 20$ monthly subscription. That's by far not what it's worth

I burned already through over 100$ in a single day with per token payment for heavy usage. I don't have any issues with Claude not working or being "nerfed". It just works

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

#26

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

Local models are not comparable to the FOTA models at all. I know what I'm saying because I do have 4 local H100's in my server, and could run the very best local models. It's night and day. They are unusable and stupid.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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I’m sorry but that’s just dumb. An LLM is a tool. Your brain is not a substitute for an LLM in the same way your fingers are not a substitute for a wrench. The year is 2026 and if you are using your brain on chore work like one-off scripts, refactoring, boilerplate test code, then you are wasting time and money and I don’t want to work with you. Local models are fine for this and can do it in a fraction of the time y…

The year is 2026 the average RAM for the most common type of developer’s (web) machine is 16GB. 8 will be the lower end. Tell me which model can one run on this machine locally?

You can use free models on opencode. Minimax whatever is just free. It's more than enough for these tasks.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

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post #21

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

This doesn’t affect existing users. This is a simple supply and demand curve. Higher demand means the price goes up .. this has been true of things since before SaaS and before computers

Thanks for all the logical fallacies in one comment.

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

#29
post #26

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

Local models are not comparable to the FOTA models at all. I know what I'm saying because I do have 4 local H100's in my server, and could run the very best local models. It's night and day. They are unusable and stupid.

For what do you use the 4 local H100s then?

Re: Claude Code Removed from $20-a-Month "Pro" Subscription for New Users

#30
post #26

This should be a warning to those who feel that it's ok to offload your creativity to a subscription service. Always need a local model in some form.

Local models are not comparable to the FOTA models at all. I know what I'm saying because I do have 4 local H100's in my server, and could run the very best local models. It's night and day. They are unusable and stupid.

Not all tasks require a frontier model
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