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Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

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Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#21

Maybe, but since I'll never connect that sucker to a network, it'll just have to sit and brood on them.

They're increasingly turning to contracts with Comcast and AT+T so that even if you don't have them on the network, they can phone home on the neighbor's wifi.

Don't forget they can just drop a 4G modem into the TV too.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#22

https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 the study Instructions given from the twitter thread but are probably slop: Samsung: Menu → Settings → All Settings → General & Privacy → Terms & Privacy → Turn off "Viewing Information Services" LG: Settings → General → System → Additional Settings → Turn off "Live Plus" Settings → Support → Privacy & Terms → User Agreements → Turn off "Viewing Information" Roku TVs (TCL, Hisense, Ph…

FWIW, I would not trust LG here to actually do nothing even after turning all the elements off, their GUI is especially "web"-like. Just leave it disconnected. I don't understand why people can't just get a secondary device for accessing live streaming programs. There's numerous devices you can buy that do it. TVs should not be connected to the internet. The incentive structures are just too bad against the user.

How do you know the TV will not also screenshot the HDMI input? That’s what I would do if I were looking to further milk the rubes buying my tv.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#23
post #3

I changed the WiFi password as never told my Samsung the new one. I expect this will work for a year or two until they figure out how to force their way onto the network.

Do you just use a Roku to watch stuff or what?

Amazon fire stick

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're increasingly turning to contracts with Comcast and AT+T so that even if you don't have them on the network, they can phone home on the neighbor's wifi.

Do you have additional information about this? I'm having trouble finding reporting or discussion on it.

That's because they understand how creepy it is. But you can find plenty of pieces about what great things it's doing for local municipalities, who have comparably small budgets, and read between the lines.

https://corporate.comcast.com/press/releases/comcast-expands...

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#26

I took out the Wi-Fi module before I ever powered up the TV. I don't want to have to trust that a guest won't try to connect to their own hotspot to watch their Netflix on my TV.

If I had to buy a smart TV, this is what I would do. It's the only way to be sure.

Sadly, the purchase would still reward the company for making a spyware screen, and signal that I find it acceptable, which is why I plan to avoid them forever.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#27
post #26

I took out the Wi-Fi module before I ever powered up the TV. I don't want to have to trust that a guest won't try to connect to their own hotspot to watch their Netflix on my TV.

If I had to buy a smart TV, this is what I would do. It's the only way to be sure. Sadly, the purchase would still reward the company for making a spyware screen, and signal that I find it acceptable, which is why I plan to avoid them forever.

I think these TVs are subsidized by the ad revenue, so you might cause them more pain by buying one and never connecting it.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, I would not trust LG here to actually do nothing even after turning all the elements off, their GUI is especially "web"-like. Just leave it disconnected. I don't understand why people can't just get a secondary device for accessing live streaming programs. There's numerous devices you can buy that do it. TVs should not be connected to the internet. The incentive structures are just too bad against the user.

How do you know the TV will not also screenshot the HDMI input? That’s what I would do if I were looking to further milk the rubes buying my tv.

It seems like they do? That’s why gp suggested disconnecting the Wi-Fi entirely.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#29

https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.06203 the study Instructions given from the twitter thread but are probably slop: Samsung: Menu → Settings → All Settings → General & Privacy → Terms & Privacy → Turn off "Viewing Information Services" LG: Settings → General → System → Additional Settings → Turn off "Live Plus" Settings → Support → Privacy & Terms → User Agreements → Turn off "Viewing Information" Roku TVs (TCL, Hisense, Ph…

I thought texas sued them all because they did it even after changing settings.

Re: Smart TV tracking raises privacy concerns (2024)

#30
post #7

I changed the WiFi password as never told my Samsung the new one. I expect this will work for a year or two until they figure out how to force their way onto the network.

They will probably eventually upload stuff through people walking by with Samsung phones or smart tags.

look up 5g miot. 6g will be worse.
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