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Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by gruez »

apparent wrote: post #6

I thought this was going to be about how people prefer different levels of blackness for the background in dark mode. I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true), and I know some folks prefer a less-inky grey. I was wondering how there could be six levels though; I'd think 3 or 4 would be the most anyone could notice or care about.

>I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true)

No.

https://www.xda-developers.com/amoled-black-vs-gray-dark-mod...

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by gruez »

t-writescode wrote: post #14
apparent wrote: post #6

I thought this was going to be about how people prefer different levels of blackness for the background in dark mode. I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true), and I know some folks prefer a less-inky grey. I was wondering how there could be six levels though; I'd think 3 or 4 would be the most anyone could notice or care about.

for OLEDs, I tend to prefer pure black because it doesn't burn-in. Since they have a limited lifetime, any "on" time is costing me usage in the long-long-long run and I'd rather have my monitor last 5+ years than ... 2 or 3.

>any "on" time is costing me usage in the long-long-long run and I'd rather have my monitor last 5+ years than ... 2 or 3.

Going from dark gray to pure black isn't going to halve your monitor expectancy, if it makes a difference at all. Due to how human perception works something that's merely dark gray is actually orders of magnitude brighter than pure white, or even 50% gray. Therefore most of your burn-in is going to be driven by bright content like photos or white text, not whether you're using 5% gray vs pure black.

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by f33d5173 »

layer8 wrote: post #13
apparent wrote: post #6

I thought this was going to be about how people prefer different levels of blackness for the background in dark mode. I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true), and I know some folks prefer a less-inky grey. I was wondering how there could be six levels though; I'd think 3 or 4 would be the most anyone could notice or care about.

The more universal solution would be to standardize Reader Mode compatibility, and for browsers to let users configure how they want Reader Mode to look. In other words, instead of an n x m solution where every web site has to cater to each different user preference, there should be a simplified content view that every web site only has to support in a singular way, and that allows browsers to cater to the various us…

It's just n x 2 for light and dark themes.

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by zamalek »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #18
zamalek wrote: post #8

Is there still no way to prevent the flash bang while waiting for initial content from the server?

I don't know if I misunderstand the problem, but what about a style tag at the earliest part of the page indicating the background color to use?

That flashbang happens during the initial latency (DNS, RTT, any server slowness).

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by mudkipdev »

apparent wrote: post #6

I thought this was going to be about how people prefer different levels of blackness for the background in dark mode. I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true), and I know some folks prefer a less-inky grey. I was wondering how there could be six levels though; I'd think 3 or 4 would be the most anyone could notice or care about.

Grayish dark themes are underrated

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by hakfoo »

f33d5173 wrote: post #24
layer8 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more universal solution would be to standardize Reader Mode compatibility, and for browsers to let users configure how they want Reader Mode to look. In other words, instead of an n x m solution where every web site has to cater to each different user preference, there should be a simplified content view that every web site only has to support in a singular way, and that allows browsers to cater to the various us…

It's just n x 2 for light and dark themes.

I feel like we could go beyond that, especially for more app-like experiences. Maybe we want themes that do things like "add specific trim to make editable fields more identifiable." or adding "high contrast" versions of the themes for low-quality screens or low-vision users.

There's no reason a webpage shouldn't be as themable as, say, a GTK or Qt based desktop application.

We should be trying to snatch back styling power from the designers and putting it back on the user-agent's side. Let the page look brutalist until the user has chosen an appropriate theme for their needs rather than railroading them into what someone in Marketing decided looked good.

Re: Six Levels of Dark Mode (2024)

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Post by K3UL »

gruez wrote: post #21
apparent wrote: post #6

I thought this was going to be about how people prefer different levels of blackness for the background in dark mode. I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true), and I know some folks prefer a less-inky grey. I was wondering how there could be six levels though; I'd think 3 or 4 would be the most anyone could notice or care about.

>I've heard people say that pure black is more battery efficient for OLED displays (but don't know if this is true) No. https://www.xda-developers.com/amoled-black-vs-gray-dark-mod...

Did you even read before pasting? Yes technically it is, which would indeed be in line with "levels of dark mode".
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