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Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #11

depending on what exactly "scraper tech" (lol) is, i suspect you may need a different, less opinionated tool to do the work you need to do. that said, i bet if you paid for enterprise, these problems would magically disappear? ;)

With scraper tech I mean a rust binary that is able to download and process thousands concurrent urls (millions per hour). Not to the same domain obviously. Paying more is not the issue here, its more the idea that an AI decides on what part of the spectrum I operate. Why is it opinionated? I am not doing anything wrong, why does it make me feel like I have to defend myself.

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #19
post #10

AI killed curiosity. At least Google made you search and look at alternatives, AI just gives you solutions, whether right or wrong. In a few years, the cognitive decline will be obvious. The only people who remain curious are the people who actively want to, despite AI, and most of the time against it. Our ability to keep digging into things is entirely tied to the will of the people controlling AI to let us do so. K…

Google killed curiosity. At least libraries made you search and read alternatives. Google just gives you solutions, whether right or wrong.

Google search doesn't "just give you solutions"

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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Opus 4.7 told me an open source program had a bug, but when i asked it for help crafting a PR or toy implementation it refused and told me i was violating Claudes TOS. I tried to plead for it to give only the most innocuous example that could not possibly work except by illustration but it continued to refuse. it would only discuss, not write any single piece of related code.

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI enables curious people to explore. Why do you say it kills curiosity? If anything, it's so recognizable with output I'd say it kills creativity.

It enables people to solve , not explore. It's a solution engine not a curiosity engine. Getting effortless answers at every turn is the opposite of curiosity.

That's a deeply cynical way of seeing things. Grabbing a book to search for an answer is no different than being told the answer is on page 153 line 6 by someone else. It's about what you as an individual is seeking from the activity.

If you're just copy-pasting answers and you don't internalize what is being said, sure, you're not being curious or more importantly, learning. This DOES NOT mean that every person who engages with an LLM is doing that or doing it every time, and just like using a search engine or grabbing a book can lead you into interesting rabbit holes, so can an LLM, it's just a matter of how fast and to want end.

The real issue is the hallucinations which for people unfamiliar with said topic, can lead them into believing what they're being told is a fact when it's not. Also LLMs like leaving out URLs and sources from their replies to save on tokens often if you don't remind them, that's also annoying.

This whole discussion is bunch of anecdotal evidence, which is fair, and as such I'll give my own. I've found myself engaging more with obscure topics that interest me via the LLMs than I did with a search engine because the barrier is lower. I don't have to sieve through horribly designed websites filled fluff that doesn't interest me, many with dozens of JS trying to run (UBO + noscript thumbs up) and in some cases demanding that certain JS run just for me to see some plain text, some slow to browse with topics hidden under sub-sub-menus. It's annoying and just one of many barriers. Others being language. etc...

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #10

AI killed curiosity. At least Google made you search and look at alternatives, AI just gives you solutions, whether right or wrong. In a few years, the cognitive decline will be obvious. The only people who remain curious are the people who actively want to, despite AI, and most of the time against it. Our ability to keep digging into things is entirely tied to the will of the people controlling AI to let us do so. K…

AI enables curious people to explore. Why do you say it kills curiosity? If anything, it's so recognizable with output I'd say it kills creativity.

Until you explore "too deep" and get your whole account banned for suspicious activity and permanently grief your whole career.

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #8

Just for giggles, I asked Claude 4.7 to write a script that would automatically up or downvote people on Reddit with a 5 second timer to bypass botting restrictions. It told me it would not help me. Past iterations of Claude have done this without blinking. I don’t like that it’s telling me what I can and can’t do with technology. That feels like it’s trying to make judgment calls like it’s a Terminator instead of ju…

Despite that I find the goal of what you are trying to achieve questionable, I believe it should not be the AI that judges you here.

We are all witnessing the start of an AI era that will not end soon. Guiderails are a part in this development. I do have questions about the people, or systems, that decide on what's good and bad behavior. This tech is used in any country in the world. As long as they are able to pay their subscription in dollars, someone is able to use it. Is it up to a company to decide what's good or bad behavior? Is this a debate? Is this politics? Is this just a vision of one company? Would it shift in time? Will it be stricter for more hyper-intelligent models? Will it change when open source models are becoming better and better?

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

#27
post #11

depending on what exactly "scraper tech" (lol) is, i suspect you may need a different, less opinionated tool to do the work you need to do. that said, i bet if you paid for enterprise, these problems would magically disappear? ;)

With scraper tech I mean a rust binary that is able to download and process thousands concurrent urls (millions per hour). Not to the same domain obviously. Paying more is not the issue here, its more the idea that an AI decides on what part of the spectrum I operate. Why is it opinionated? I am not doing anything wrong, why does it make me feel like I have to defend myself.

What is the specific concrete purpose of downloading millions of URLs per hour across different domains if it's "not doing anything wrong"?

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #10

AI killed curiosity. At least Google made you search and look at alternatives, AI just gives you solutions, whether right or wrong. In a few years, the cognitive decline will be obvious. The only people who remain curious are the people who actively want to, despite AI, and most of the time against it. Our ability to keep digging into things is entirely tied to the will of the people controlling AI to let us do so. K…

AI enables curious people to explore. Why do you say it kills curiosity? If anything, it's so recognizable with output I'd say it kills creativity.

Agree. I have learned so much, so rapidly, over the last 3 years, thanks to these AI tools.

These things can be a poisoned chalice, leading to weaker long-term performance, or they can be a force multiplier. It's up to you how you use them.

Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

#29
post #6

I think the problem is this: how do they distinguish between those with a legitimate interest (contributors, users, bounty programs, etc.) and those who want to sell the bug on the black market? Since there's no real solution, they'll implement some "trick" that as a side effect will randomly block other people's work.

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Re: Claude Code Opus 4.7 keeps checking on malware

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI enables curious people to explore. Why do you say it kills curiosity? If anything, it's so recognizable with output I'd say it kills creativity.

Until you explore "too deep" and get your whole account banned for suspicious activity and permanently grief your whole career.

Serious fear I have.

I brought it up two years ago and get downvoted when I brought it up a couple months ago.

There is a story on the front page right now about someone losing their child's family videos from a youtube ban. We hear about this stuff all the time. I suspect we are gonna be in somewhat of an arms race with AI products as the bubble grows over the next 18-24 months. This makes me worried about how disadvantaged people are going to be if they lose access to the better platform (whichever that ends up being).

Do you think AI is going to be so important that we would benefit from legal protections for access?

Or do you think the models and technology will become so small we will be able to personalize / decentralize the tech and it still be useful / competitive?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40784126

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