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Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by reenorap »

dezgeg wrote: post #10
fishtoaster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Winning 2000 games in a row sounds statistically unlikely unless the Windows version of solitaire does something behind the scenes to make the game more winnable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_(solitaire)#Probabili...

Could there be mixup with FreeCell?

Whoops you're right it was FreeCell! I totally got those mixed up but yes it was FreeCell that she got 2000+ games in a row, she was very proud of that. She didn't even want me to play on her computer in case I ruined her streak LOL

Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by reenorap »

fishtoaster wrote: post #5
reenorap wrote: post #3

Isn't 8.5% low? My mom didn't use the computer much except she did play solitaire on her Windows laptop all the time. She had over a 2000 game win streak until she got dementia and stopped using the computer altogether.

Winning 2000 games in a row sounds statistically unlikely unless the Windows version of solitaire does something behind the scenes to make the game more winnable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_(solitaire)#Probabili...

As someone else mentioned I got it mixed up, it was FreeCell not Solitaire!

Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by 7bit »

estimator7292 wrote: post #13
fishtoaster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Winning 2000 games in a row sounds statistically unlikely unless the Windows version of solitaire does something behind the scenes to make the game more winnable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_(solitaire)#Probabili...

The Microsoft Solitaire Pack or whatever the current branding is does, indeed do something behind the scenes to ensure the game is winnable. I suspect they have either a massive database of proven-winnable shuffles, or before the game presents a new deck to you, it solves it in the background to prove it's winnable. Personally I dislike this feature. Yeah it sucks to get an unwinnable shuffle, but that's just how car…

I appreciate it. When I play, I want a challenge that's solvable. It still is hard to actually solve it, so it remains a challenge.

Only because you can't do that with real cards, doesn't mean that's preferable or superior.

Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by blarg1 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #4
reenorap wrote: post #3

Isn't 8.5% low? My mom didn't use the computer much except she did play solitaire on her Windows laptop all the time. She had over a 2000 game win streak until she got dementia and stopped using the computer altogether.

Similarly, my half-sister's mother was almost allergic to anything technology, except for to play Solitaire, which she did every single day. I think many of the games offer configurable "difficulty" though, there are modes where it's guaranteed to be solvable for example. And most of them surely are made slightly easier by default. With a randomly shuffled real deck, wouldn't surprise me that it would be ~10%,.

my brother who never really had much interest in computer games, could always get the high score in any game I was playing eg pinball, racing

I'd spend ages to get a point above his score, and he'd come back and get an even higher one.

He did the same thing to my dad with solitaire, my dad plays it everyday and was proud of his high score. Then my brother who was just visiting, beat my dads highscore by a huge margin, and years later my dad is still annoyed he can't beat it.

Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by neonstatic »

estimator7292 wrote: post #13
fishtoaster wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Winning 2000 games in a row sounds statistically unlikely unless the Windows version of solitaire does something behind the scenes to make the game more winnable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_(solitaire)#Probabili...

The Microsoft Solitaire Pack or whatever the current branding is does, indeed do something behind the scenes to ensure the game is winnable. I suspect they have either a massive database of proven-winnable shuffles, or before the game presents a new deck to you, it solves it in the background to prove it's winnable. Personally I dislike this feature. Yeah it sucks to get an unwinnable shuffle, but that's just how car…

> The Microsoft Solitaire Pack or whatever the current branding is

That would be Microsoft 365 Copilot Card Intelligence

Re: Solitaire simulator for finding the best strategy: Current record is 8.590%

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Post by xigoi »

neonstatic wrote: post #26
estimator7292 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Microsoft Solitaire Pack or whatever the current branding is does, indeed do something behind the scenes to ensure the game is winnable. I suspect they have either a massive database of proven-winnable shuffles, or before the game presents a new deck to you, it solves it in the background to prove it's winnable. Personally I dislike this feature. Yeah it sucks to get an unwinnable shuffle, but that's just how car…

> The Microsoft Solitaire Pack or whatever the current branding is That would be Microsoft 365 Copilot Card Intelligence

Not to be confused with Microsoft Copilot 365 Card Intelligence, which is a program for AI-generating business cards.
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