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European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp

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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.

Maybe that's a good thing. I want people running my country to actually know how to do things.

Re: European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp

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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.

Maybe that's a good thing. I want people running my country to actually know how to do things.

No idea why this is down voted. Ai makes people dumber and kills problem solving skills over a long timespan.

Re: European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp

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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.

What do you mean by most academics? In Europe? That's just blatently untrue.

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Governments want to move away from “platforms over which we have no control,” says Dutch minister. Sure, that is fair enough. But why is EU not setting up their own servers for whisper or activity pub or whatever OSS protocols and just make that their only official and approved communication channel?

It is my understanding that a lot of EU governments are setting up their own matrix servers.

This is true. We just published a map of it: https://element.io/en/matrix-in-europe

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The problem with these efforts is always the same: organizations make their own messenger, and the fact that these organizations then have control over their own messenger ... means their employees won't use it. And that's ignoring that you can bet your firstborn they cut corners developing these messengers, so they're not pleasant to use to boot. In 2026 you still hear complaints of government employees that they on…

> the fact that these organizations then have control over their own messenger ... means their employees won't use it.

Not sure what you mean here; I happily use whatever work email and messenger systems are provided for work. Most people do. I don't actually mind that IT services have access; they are in any case covered by GDPR.

In some cases there has been a legal crackdown on back channels: https://www.ft.com/content/68c26cf6-52d5-11e3-a73e-00144feab...

The Boris Johnson problem remains, but it can at least be made against the rules for normal work purposes.

(Remember not to type crimes into a computer, people)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> organizations make their own messenger, and the fact that these organizations then have control over their own messenger ... means their employees won't use it Legally mandate its use for official communications.

And they'll keep doing what Boris Johnson was doing when in power: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-covid... They'll do it anyway.

This is helpful because it makes the criminality stand out.

Because, yes, in democracies we have public records laws.

Re: European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp

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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.

What are you on about?

I don't know of any software or services that would be banned at my university. People use all sorts of LLMs extensively.

At least in Finland also civil servants are free to use what AI services they want, given they don't put in sensitive information. Just like they can use any search engine they want.

Re: European civil servants are being forced off WhatsApp

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European civil servants are also usually banned from using AI — perhaps with the exception of Microsoft copilot. They live in a bubble where they just don’t know. This goes for most academics as well.

Ah yes. "It's so bad that people in government agencies cannot give sensitive info to US companies or blindly rely on LLMs for their decisions since nothing has ever happened when people in governments blindly trusted black boxes"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-wa...

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