Excellent. The only thing I wish they had added was borkdude.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it is, considering they highlighted it in a post about human craft [1]. I read somewhere it was illustrated by felipemelo.net, but can't find the reference anymore [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/cultrepo.bsky.social/post/3mjhubrh3...
It'll be interesting to learn whether it was AI-generated. It certainly SEEMS like it is. It has a few "tells": - two belts and two Clojure logo belt buckles - same code repeated on the steps (odd artistic choice if made by the artist) - the seemingly out-of-place scarf, stylistically its color/pattern doesn't seem to fit Either way, it seems like an homage to this Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom poster: https:/…
the scarf matches the one Rich is wearing near the end of the documentary. the code matches what's on the Clojure source code, even if it's an odd choice. the two belts are in the draft, even if only one of them features the logo. the artist's instagram has a bunch of well colorized artwork. I believe it is really human made
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#23Incredible: I had not idea NuBank discovered Datomic first and that it's Datomic that led them to Clojure, 100 million+ customers, and eventually acquiring Cognitect. Good to see David Nolen (aka "swanodette") is in the documentary too. As a bonus here's a recent talk from David Nolen about Clojure/ClojureScript and using DOM morphing instead of React. If you don't want to watch it all, just take two minutes to watch…
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#24Excellent. The only thing I wish they had added was borkdude.
Yes, sad there's no European presence (unless I missed someone). There's tons of Clojure over there. Metosin, Juxt, Borkent, Gaiwan (Arne), Flexiana, Peter Strömberg (Calva), Dustin Getz (hyperfiddle/electric), Christophe Grand (ClojureDart), Bojidar (CIDER), Renzo, and many, many more.
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#25is clojure still relevant in the post agentic coding reality that opens up pretty much all esoteric languages to everyone ? back in the day used to use clojure to write a fintech app but not sure if it is still relevant has uses vs other langs that have emerged
I find it actually the best substrate to write AI tooling. All my custom MCPs are written in Clojure (bb). You hook up the agent to the REPL and let it go wild - it builds something nice. Also, Clojure is one of the most token efficient PLs.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It'll be interesting to learn whether it was AI-generated. It certainly SEEMS like it is. It has a few "tells": - two belts and two Clojure logo belt buckles - same code repeated on the steps (odd artistic choice if made by the artist) - the seemingly out-of-place scarf, stylistically its color/pattern doesn't seem to fit Either way, it seems like an homage to this Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom poster: https:/…
the scarf matches the one Rich is wearing near the end of the documentary. the code matches what's on the Clojure source code, even if it's an odd choice. the two belts are in the draft, even if only one of them features the logo. the artist's instagram has a bunch of well colorized artwork. I believe it is really human made
Huh. I don’t doubt you, but I guess this is a sign pervasive AI/LLM generative artwork is messing with my brain’s pattern matching at a deep level.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clojure might be the least esoteric language ever. Call a function, get a value.
It definitely is more "mainstream" than others but I just don't see the same level of attention and enthusiasm around it anymore. I'm sure it is still being used in many places but like Elixir, hiring remains on the tough end.
Hiring good talent was always problematic. This has nothing to do with the quality, capacity, and robustness of the language or its relevance. Hiring people who would love to use Clojure but have no prior experience is not that difficult - it's just that every company wants an expert, but they don't want to offer expert salaries. In places where they do, the competition is nuts, on top of that, experienced Clojuristas typically get interviewed and scrutinized with the same level of rigor as architects.
The industry should have optimized for hiring people interested in PLs like Clojure instead of LeetCode drillers. Clojure is rarely the first, second, or even third programming language people choose to learn. It demands a specific vision, dedication, and discipline that fundamentally transforms how people think about computation, data flow, distributed systems, and concurrency. The ROI from hiring an average developer experienced in Clojure has the potential to significantly exceed that of a typical hire. Even when there's zero Clojure in prod.
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You know there's a saying in Russian, that roughly translates to: "an expert surgeon is capable of helping a bad dancer", which is on itself is a reference to another idiom: "a bad dancer always blames his own balls".
That's quickly becoming befitting for cases like this - so often people rush to blame AI without even trying to use their own reasoning. I don't know what to say, hope you find a good surgeon, because it is obvious - you're shit of a dancer.
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#29In a previous life, I wrote Clojure every day and still look back fondly attending Clojure/Conj and sitting next to Rich Hickey and other Clojure greats at dinner. My first startup was all Clojure. AWS only had a dozen or two products and I think we must have been the first to compile Clojure to JS and run it on Lambda in production (the only runtime was Node.js 0.10 at the time). Anyway, I cannot wait to watch this
How do you feel about it now? Like holistically.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
It definitely is more "mainstream" than others but I just don't see the same level of attention and enthusiasm around it anymore. I'm sure it is still being used in many places but like Elixir, hiring remains on the tough end.
Hiring good talent was always problematic. This has nothing to do with the quality, capacity, and robustness of the language or its relevance. Hiring people who would love to use Clojure but have no prior experience is not that difficult - it's just that every company wants an expert, but they don't want to offer expert salaries. In places where they do, the competition is nuts, on top of that, experienced Clojurista…
I've had Clojure on my resume for 10 years, mainly to see if anyone would ask about it. Nobody ever has, until an interview a couple days ago. We'll see if it actually helps in leading to an offer, I guess.