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Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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Now please let us install the apps just as easily

downloading an APK and opening it is already about as easy as it gets. the only thing easier would be for someone else to do it for you

You're forgetting the installation ("sideloading", what everyone else calls installation) restrictions they are about to deploy. It will be a significant hassle to install anything without Google's approval. Many F-droid apps are showing warning notices about this upcoming change.

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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> Your agents perform best when they have a lightweight, programmatic interface to interact with the Android SDK and development environment. F you google. Me too. Why didn't we get a sane way to build android apps before you had to please chatbots?

Damned if you do. Damned if you dont.

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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post #2

Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling.

this has been my sort of big tent alignment with AI people. If I'm getting good CLI tooling that _actually works_ (or fixes to existing ones that have been busted forever) then I'm pretty happy.

Things that make systems more understandable to the LLMs ... usually make things more understandable for humans as well. Usually.

The biggest issue I've found is that vibed up tooling tends to be pretty bad at having the right kind of "sense" for what makes good CLI UX. So you still have awkward argument structures or naming. Better than nothing though

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since rafram is not the only one confused, yes, you really do.

It isn't that hard to understand: > Just wait until there are entire classes of vulnerabilities related to LLM usage This is a valid concern. There are going to be a new class of vulnerabilities which an LLM is involved which are going to be discovered and it will make it possible to cause catastrophic damage to a company; very easily. This won't be surprising since we have companies building casual remote code execu…

I understand that. What about that relates specifically to the Android CLI? That was rafram's question, and mine, and as far as I can tell still hasn't been answered.

I mean, I guess if you're going to say "don't use LLMs", then you also don't want to let agents use the Android CLI, but it seems like raising an awfully general concern in a discussion about a very specific article.

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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post #12

>Google collects usage data for the Android CLI, such as commands, sub-commands, and flags used. This data does not include custom parameters or identifiable information. This information helps improve the tool and is collected in accordance with Google's Privacy Policy. > https://policies.google.com/privacy >Disable Android CLI metrics collection by using the --no-metrics flag. No thanks, is there no env variable fo…

Android CLI can write a tool that wraps android-cli and automatically passes the flag based on an env variable. How would Google have enough data about a brand new product without collecting that data?

> How would Google have enough data about a brand new product without collecting that data?

They wouldn't. But on the other hand, they probably have a large amount of in-house Android app developers on whom they can conduct such metrics collection. I wouldn't expect outsiders to have vastly different workflows, because when you get out of the happy path with Android all you get is pain.

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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post #2

Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling.

I've been thinking the same thing lately. It's sorta frustrating that it required bots to force tech companies to make clean simple cli driven development workflows.

Re: Android CLI: Build Android apps 3x faster using any agent

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post #2

Agents will allow human programmers to get what they've been begging for decades now: proper requirements and flexible, logical, tooling.

It's wild that it took AI to get half the companies on the planet to actually add reasonably priced APIs to their products so I don't have to puppeteer every damn thing with a flakey harness.
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