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The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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I'd very much hesitate characterising countries as a whole.

No I mean if you set up a simulation where there's a bunch of entities who are chill and a bunch of entities who are not chill, and then you run the simulation... Wait a minute, that rings a bell! https://ncase.me/trust/

By that logic, every single human should be a psychopath by now.

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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During the Covid lockdowns in India, I saw birds I had not seen in decades. It was amazing; the skies had cleared up, and nature truly was recovering.

And humanity as-a-whole learnt nothing. Let's hope there's some more movement in the right direction as a result of _this_ crisis.

There will almost certainly be more pandemics and they'll probably be worse. The world is getting smaller, and what takes a super high end lab these days (in terms of virus creation) will be done by college students in 20 years.

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Per Blaise Pascal, no they cannot: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” We need to keep growing, building, making, taking. Some people seem to really love the bustle and creative destruction. I'm in my 40s, and I've always hated it. When I was a child, I wondered if when I grew up, I would fit naturally into the world the way that so many others seemed to. The answer…

Case in point: Marc Andreeson denigrating introspection not only in his own life, but extrapolating that to the population at large. As Dr, Jung noted, healing happens in solitude. That’s one of the reasons that Alcoholics Anonymous really didn’t help me much. Sitting around broken people isn’t going to magically cause a “spiritual awakening” but in a few, nearly statistically negligible instances.

Turning off Social Media from 10pm to 8am local time would be a great start toward the recovery of human interaction sabotaged by COVID. To put it another way, Grocery Stores which supply life sustaining nutrition are not typically open 24 hours. Comparatively speaking they are more “Good” than social media. As such, rein in the latter rather than expand the former (Wal-Mart finding open 24 hours isn’t worth it is an economic proof of concept here) and we can improve our collective ability to make progress.

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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I'd very much hesitate characterising countries as a whole.

No I mean if you set up a simulation where there's a bunch of entities who are chill and a bunch of entities who are not chill, and then you run the simulation... Wait a minute, that rings a bell! https://ncase.me/trust/

That game / simulation is fantastic. Thanks for sharing, I'm gonna pass it on at work.

More than fantastic, it's beautiful.

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Per Blaise Pascal, no they cannot: “All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” We need to keep growing, building, making, taking. Some people seem to really love the bustle and creative destruction. I'm in my 40s, and I've always hated it. When I was a child, I wondered if when I grew up, I would fit naturally into the world the way that so many others seemed to. The answer…

I'd like to say that there may be some human cultures that are / were generally respectful to their environment and the animals therein, but it's hard to say how much that was an 'enforced' position based on their level of technological evolution. I think it's a fundamental rule that the 'rape and pillage' types will always overrun the non-'rape and pillage' types. Much in the same way the sociopaths are able to clim…

Ecuador has Rights of Nature articles incorporated into their 2008 Constitution [1] effecting national decision making in investment and development.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_nature_in_Ecuador

Re: The noise we make is hurting animals. Can we learn to shut up?

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No I mean if you set up a simulation where there's a bunch of entities who are chill and a bunch of entities who are not chill, and then you run the simulation... Wait a minute, that rings a bell! https://ncase.me/trust/

By that logic, every single human should be a psychopath by now.

I think that's far from true, going by the simulation game thingy.
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