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Re: EU Age Verification Solution

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Post by snowpid »

t0bia_s wrote: post #19
squigz wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they will have to lead from a position of deep unpopularity Can you elaborate on... why?

Tons of regulations over and over. General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) EU Artificial Intelligence Act (AI Act) ePrivacy Directive (Cookie Law) Digital Services Act (DSA) Digital Markets Act (DMA) Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM) EU Emissions Trading System (ETS) Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD) REACH Regulation (chemicals control) Packaging and P…

ehm lol? Roaming Regulation (price caps for telecoms) is very popular and was even advertised by the EU itself. DSA, DMA and REACH arent very famous but you explain more deeply most people would agree. Orban was voted out of office e.g. because chemical problems in a Samsung factory. So at least your hypothesis must be cited. Apple and Google arent very popular mega corps.

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Post by t0bia_s »

snowpid wrote: post #21
t0bia_s wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tons of regulations over and over. General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) EU Artificial Intelligence Act (AI Act) ePrivacy Directive (Cookie Law) Digital Services Act (DSA) Digital Markets Act (DMA) Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM) EU Emissions Trading System (ETS) Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD) REACH Regulation (chemicals control) Packaging and P…

ehm lol? Roaming Regulation (price caps for telecoms) is very popular and was even advertised by the EU itself. DSA, DMA and REACH arent very famous but you explain more deeply most people would agree. Orban was voted out of office e.g. because chemical problems in a Samsung factory. So at least your hypothesis must be cited. Apple and Google arent very popular mega corps.

Apple and Google arent very popular mega corps

That's why DSA doesn't work. Small and medium-sized enterprises comply and delete unnecessary content because they face crippling fines, while big ones just pay fines made from harmful content. Over and over.

Re: EU Age Verification Solution

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Post by snowpid »

t0bia_s wrote: post #22
snowpid wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ehm lol? Roaming Regulation (price caps for telecoms) is very popular and was even advertised by the EU itself. DSA, DMA and REACH arent very famous but you explain more deeply most people would agree. Orban was voted out of office e.g. because chemical problems in a Samsung factory. So at least your hypothesis must be cited. Apple and Google arent very popular mega corps.

Apple and Google arent very popular mega corps That's why DSA doesn't work. Small and medium-sized enterprises comply and delete unnecessary content because they face crippling fines, while big ones just pay fines made from harmful content. Over and over.

tell me more about these popular small and medium sized enterprises which are struggeling under the obligation of the DSA. I like to hear which ones at least.

Btw, the Very Large ones regulated under DSA are either neutral or negative seen.

Re: EU Age Verification Solution

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Post by subscribed »

t0bia_s wrote: post #19
squigz wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they will have to lead from a position of deep unpopularity Can you elaborate on... why?

Tons of regulations over and over. General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) EU Artificial Intelligence Act (AI Act) ePrivacy Directive (Cookie Law) Digital Services Act (DSA) Digital Markets Act (DMA) Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM) EU Emissions Trading System (ETS) Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD) REACH Regulation (chemicals control) Packaging and P…

Half of these are vital for wellbeing and financial reasons. Only a libertarian or MAG hatter argued that, say, Working Time directive, Schengen regulations or GDPR are detrimental to EU citizens.

LOL.

Re: EU Age Verification Solution

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Post by techcode »

exceptione wrote: post #13
techcode wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In The Netherlands I wouldn't be able to login to any government or adjecent websites (e.g. portal of my local health center/GP, health insurance, retirement/pension insurance) without a smart phone running DigiD app for 2FA. The non-EU Serbia has the equivalent app, but also you might be able to get individual/personal e-certificate (for logging into e-government or signing e-documents) added into smart card chip of…

Dumb phone works as well with sms verification.

I used to work for a GSM messaging gateway/SMSC. And seeing first hand how most of those SMS messages (2FA, password reset, bank transaction/balance ...etc) are usually routed (sure over SSL but stored/forwarded as unencrypted GSM packets) through several different companies around the world - before reaching your mobile operator ...

And on top of that you add stuff like sim cloning, and all the other things that one gets by having a direct SS7 connection (there were blog posts/YouTube videos - IIRC Linus Tech Tips calls/SMS got routed to Australia).

Using SMS for 2FA or anything similar is my last resort.

Granted I stopped working there 15+ years ago - but I imagine that the basic economy reasoning where it's impractical for every mobile operator to have a direct peering contract with every other operator in the world - is still the same.

And messages originating from non mobile users/operators (like DigiD 2FA) always start at one of these messaging gateways/SMSCs (e.g. InfoBip.com), and often go through a few different ones before reaching your mobile operator.

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Post by econ »

jampekka wrote: post #9

The slogan "Age Verification Solution for all Europeans" is a lie. The honest slogan is "Age Verification Solution for Europeans Who Use Mobile Devices that are Controlled by US Corporations and by Extension US Government Which Can Revoke Your Use of the Solution with No Recourse".

I asked about the wero[1] US tech lock-in since it is based on Ideal which (in contrast) also works with a browser + card reader + pin code. The response was not to worry about that. Wtf?

I also find the de-banking mechanism fascinating. Bunch of anons decide privately if you are fkd for whatever reason they want (if any)

[1] - https://wero-wallet.eu

Re: EU Age Verification Solution

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Post by budududuroiu »

squigz wrote: post #18
budududuroiu wrote: post #14

EU leaders are aware that for the next couple of decades, they will have to lead from a position of deep unpopularity. This is the "solution" to that problem, not whatever they're claiming is the problem.

> they will have to lead from a position of deep unpopularity Can you elaborate on... why?

The breakdown of the welfarism as there's simply not enough workers to feed the welfare state.

The economic stagnation.

The discontent with the current bureaucratic and unelected elite that makes up 2/3 of the Trilogue.

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