The reintroduction of Red Kites to the UK has been a huge success. I don't get particularly excited by birds normally, but regularly seeing such large creatures (almost 2m wingspans) curving through the sky is nothing short of majestic. They're almost reminiscent of dragons. I wonder if I'll get to feel the same about golden eagles soon too.
I have large lungs, and can be very loud, and where I live the eagles ridge soar whilst going from one place to another, at just a bit higher than the tree tops, mostly baldies here with the ocasional golden, and for fun I started, belowing EEEGULL strait up at them, and they do a double take WTF, pull a hard wing over to get a better look and the finnish there turn, and blast off down wind, so if you get the chance,…
Golden eagles' return to English skies
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) This particular spotted big breasted eagle is hardly known and of little importance culturally. 2) Farm margins are very thin and its not up to you to dictate what an acceptable loss is. 3) Government has successfully in the past used hunting bounties to tame wilderness and increase farming productivity. The eradication of wolves in the great plains turned unremarkable scrub land into the most successful and produ…
Wasn't the eradication of wolves just the natural consequence of destroying the food source and way of life of the natives? Gotta get those people dead or moved if you're going to steal their land, amirite!
Or in Palestine, for that matter.
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#23The reintroduction of Red Kites to the UK has been a huge success. I don't get particularly excited by birds normally, but regularly seeing such large creatures (almost 2m wingspans) curving through the sky is nothing short of majestic. They're almost reminiscent of dragons. I wonder if I'll get to feel the same about golden eagles soon too.
I don't get particularly excited by birds normally Same. Sometimes one of my deer will get thwacked by a car just hard enough it stumbles up my driveway and falls over. There will be 3 golden eagles and 2 bald eagles fighting over it. The first time I saw them I had a double-take ... I swore at first I saw men sitting on my driveway fence. Golden eagles are massive and quite awe inspiring to watch. When they fight ov…
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#24The reintroduction of Red Kites to the UK has been a huge success. I don't get particularly excited by birds normally, but regularly seeing such large creatures (almost 2m wingspans) curving through the sky is nothing short of majestic. They're almost reminiscent of dragons. I wonder if I'll get to feel the same about golden eagles soon too.
I have large lungs, and can be very loud, and where I live the eagles ridge soar whilst going from one place to another, at just a bit higher than the tree tops, mostly baldies here with the ocasional golden, and for fun I started, belowing EEEGULL strait up at them, and they do a double take WTF, pull a hard wing over to get a better look and the finnish there turn, and blast off down wind, so if you get the chance,…
A lady sitting in front of me at the football said she could feel the vibrations in her chest when I was loudly booing at the footy.
I had an x-ray a couple of years ago and was asked if I was a smoker, strangely because of the size of my lungs. Apparently, ironically, smokers lungs are larger than average and I have to assume it's to balance out all the damage that smoking does. I used to be a swimmer, so I figured my lungs must have developed from the requirement of controlled breathing as part of swimming (and the general fitness and therefore additional oxygen processing requirements).
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get particularly excited by birds normally Same. Sometimes one of my deer will get thwacked by a car just hard enough it stumbles up my driveway and falls over. There will be 3 golden eagles and 2 bald eagles fighting over it. The first time I saw them I had a double-take ... I swore at first I saw men sitting on my driveway fence. Golden eagles are massive and quite awe inspiring to watch. When they fight ov…
Wow! What state is this in?
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#26The reintroduction of Red Kites to the UK has been a huge success. I don't get particularly excited by birds normally, but regularly seeing such large creatures (almost 2m wingspans) curving through the sky is nothing short of majestic. They're almost reminiscent of dragons. I wonder if I'll get to feel the same about golden eagles soon too.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Eagles are very well-known. 2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb. 3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
4. Farmers are already facing great difficulties from economic shocks like Brexit, Covid, Ukraine and Hormuz in a short span of time, and further strain is unwelcome.
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. Eagles are very well-known. 2. Farms that keep sheep have more than one lamb. 3. The government doesn't, and shouldn't, intervene to protect people against every single risk they face in business.
1) This particular spotted big breasted eagle is hardly known and of little importance culturally. 2) Farm margins are very thin and its not up to you to dictate what an acceptable loss is. 3) Government has successfully in the past used hunting bounties to tame wilderness and increase farming productivity. The eradication of wolves in the great plains turned unremarkable scrub land into the most successful and produ…
Your statement is completely unrelated with the parent article. Contrary to what you say, the golden eagle is by far the best known species of eagle and the one with the greatest cultural importance.
The golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) is the species of eagle that has become the state symbol of the late Roman Republic and then of the Roman Empire.
Inspired by the Romans, during the last couple of millennia many other states have included the golden eagle in their heraldic symbols and several of them are still using it today.
Even much earlier than the Romans, at all Indo-European people the golden eagle had a special importance, being the bird used as a messenger by the God of the Sky, later known as Zeus in Greece and as Jupiter at the Romans. Already the Hittite texts from 3500 years ago have many references to the golden eagle.
The golden eagle is also the species that has been the most valued as a domesticated hunting bird in Central Asia.
The use of the "bald" eagle by USA has also been inspired by the Roman golden eagle, but the original species was replaced with a native American species. The golden eagles have survived in small pockets spread over a very large area from Western Europe to USA, so they were not representative for USA alone.
While the sea eagles, to which the American "bald" eagle also belongs, are bigger than the golden eagle, the golden eagle is stronger for its size and she is able to hunt bigger prey in proportion to its size. Only some jungle eagles, like the harpy eagle, are definitely stronger and able to carry heavier prey.
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#29The reason is that sheep have always been guarded by shepherds and dogs.
The reintroduction of eagles can create problems only where lambs are completely unguarded, in order to save some money over the traditional methods.
So the choice between letting eagles live and exterminating them is not between raising sheep and not raising sheep, but between using a traditional level of care for them and a slightly cost-saving modern method, which has eliminated a part of the jobs associated with sheep raising.
A solution for the AI-hyped era, where paying human employees is frowned upon, would be to use robot dogs for scaring raptor birds.
Re: Golden eagles' return to English skies
#30I do not understand to what you are referring by "is hardly known and of little importance culturally".
Your statement is completely unrelated with the parent article. Contrary to what you say, the golden eagle is by far the best known species of eagle and the one with the greatest cultural importance. In a large part of Eurasia, for at least 5 millennia or more the golden eagle has been the most culturally important species of bird.
The golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) is the species of eagle that has become the state symbol of the late Roman Republic and then of the Roman Empire.
Inspired by the Romans, during the last couple of millennia many other states have included the golden eagle in their heraldic symbols and several of them are still using it today.
Even much earlier than the Romans, at all Indo-European people the golden eagle had a special importance, being the bird used as a messenger by the God of the Sky, later known as Zeus in Greece and as Jupiter at the Romans. Already the Hittite texts from 3500 years ago have many references to the golden eagle.
The golden eagle is also the species that has been the most valued as a domesticated hunting bird in Central Asia.
The use of the "bald" eagle by USA has also been inspired by the Roman golden eagle, but the original species was replaced with a native American species. The golden eagles have survived in small pockets spread over a very large area from Western Europe to USA, so they were not representative for USA alone.
While the sea eagles, to which the American "bald" eagle also belongs, are bigger than the golden eagle (whose preferred habitat are the high mountains), the golden eagle is stronger for its size and she is able to hunt bigger prey in proportion to its size. Only some jungle eagles, like the harpy eagle, are definitely stronger and able to carry heavier prey.