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Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

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Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

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I would just like to take a moment here to draw attention to the fact that the planned Superconducting Supercollider would have been even more capable at probing supersymmetry than the LHC and had it not been cancelled it would have been operating for well over a decade by now.

That time frame is not really accurate. Big accelerators, like many massive projects, are always years behind schedule. Back before the SSC was canceled, it and the LHC were both scheduled to turn on about a decade ago. But since the LHC actually got built, it experienced the real-life hiccups that would have delayed the SSC by years too.

World's Toughest: Fixes Atom Smasher (S2E8) had a really interesting segment why the LHC took so long to get into service. (it's on hulu and netflix)

http://www.hulu.com/watch/176546#i0,p6,s2,d0

Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#24
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The barman says "We don't serve neutrinos here" A neutrino walks into a bar.

Isn't that a tachyon?

The news was that neutrino was measured to have FTL speed.

Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#25

Humans are running in a relay marathon of knowledge. Physics always seems to stagnate, then jump. The jumps come when a bunch of smart people can collocate and communicate. That's the recipe, and that's the only recipe. It's hard to share the energy in the room when you are not in the same room. The cause of the jump though is not a bunch of people getting together, it's someone crazy enough to throw the first stone.…

Welcome to the "Brave New World".

Huxley was right: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ygIqLJnBJI

It's not like we were never warned.

Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#27

I would just like to take a moment here to draw attention to the fact that the planned Superconducting Supercollider would have been even more capable at probing supersymmetry than the LHC and had it not been cancelled it would have been operating for well over a decade by now.

That time frame is not really accurate. Big accelerators, like many massive projects, are always years behind schedule. Back before the SSC was canceled, it and the LHC were both scheduled to turn on about a decade ago. But since the LHC actually got built, it experienced the real-life hiccups that would have delayed the SSC by years too.

I believe you are mistaken. The LEP and the SSC started early construction at about the same time, and the SSC was cancelled in the early 90s while the LEP started operations in '89. Construction of the LHC did not begin until the late 90s, well after the SSC had been cancelled and operations began about a decade after construction started. Even taking into account thee advantage the LHC had in being able to reuse the LEP tunnels and some of the existing infrastructure the likelihood of the SSC being able to become operational in the early 2000s is fairly high.

Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#28
post #5

Useful links here: http://profmattstrassler.com/2012/11/12/first-news-from-kyot... http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=5264 Talk is here (follow password instructions): http://kds.kek.jp/getFile.py/access?contribId=61&session...

Thanks! To quote the shortest and much less sensationalistic summary from the second link:

"The B(s)->mu+mu- results from LHCb are out providing good agreement with the Standard Model, and new, strong limits on possible Supersymetry models"

Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#29

I would just like to take a moment here to draw attention to the fact that the planned Superconducting Supercollider would have been even more capable at probing supersymmetry than the LHC and had it not been cancelled it would have been operating for well over a decade by now.

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Re: Supersymmetry theory in doubt. Researchers detect rare particle decay at LHC.

#30
post #11

just for the record and to please the prospective downvoting mob, in order to warn any non-westerners: "The cost [...] has been evaluated, taking into account realistic labor prices in different countries. The total cost is X (with a western equivalent value of Y) [where Y>X] source: LHCb calorimeters : Technical Design Report ISBN: 9290831693 http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/494264 http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1127343?l…

I've gotta say, you sound sort of like you think you have a point and that you think it might be controversial, but I have no idea what it might be.

Search for any post about CERN, and you'll find his posts like the above.

From what I can tell, he's claiming that CERN discriminates against non-Western people. His evidence is a budget report, where they estimate how much something will cost based on the amount of people involved. The calculation adjusts for where the people are located, and the cost is higher if they're in a Western country.

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