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Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by lapetitejort »

rkomorn wrote: post #18
lapetitejort wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example of a well-known homeopathic and/or folk remedy that has been adopted into regular medicine, maybe in the last 20-50 years?

I think the closest one ("but no cigar") might be oscillococcinum, but its popularity isn't due to doctors recommending it (because they don't, by and large).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillococcinum

> There is no compelling scientific evidence that Oscillococcinum has any effect beyond placebo.

Does not sound promising

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by lapetitejort »

halflife wrote: post #11
krior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homeopathy is not a "folk" tradition, it is simply an insane concept.

I once sat next to a mint plant and it cured my cold, the farther I sat the better I felt. Obviously diluted mint particles in the air cured me.

We must eradicate mint plants. Over time the dilution of mint particles in the air will become so small that all diseases will go extinct

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by mutagen »

aappleby wrote: post #6

The article title is super misleading - this is about measurements of inflammatory markers in vitro and explicitly does not generalize to food intake.

It is also missing the "in Mice" part of the headline.

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/18/3/376

Functional Phytochemicals Cooperatively Suppress Inflammation in RAW264.7 Cells

RAW 264.7 cells are a mouse macrophage cell line commonly used in research to study immune responses, inflammation, and cancer.

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by rkomorn »

lapetitejort wrote: post #21
rkomorn wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the closest one ("but no cigar") might be oscillococcinum, but its popularity isn't due to doctors recommending it (because they don't, by and large).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillococcinum > There is no compelling scientific evidence that Oscillococcinum has any effect beyond placebo. Does not sound promising

Wonder if that might be related to why I wrote "but its popularity isn't due to doctors recommending it (because they don't, by and large)."

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by IncreasePosts »

dylan604 wrote: post #9
hyperhello wrote: post #3

Can I take a capsaicin and a mint supplement together? Is that enough to get the effect?

It is funny how that is the thing people turn to rather than just eating food. Let me eat junk and be happy while taking supplements.

What part of their post indicates they eat junk? Maybe they just don't want to have spicy minty meals every day

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by Den_VR »

roughly wrote: post #10

This is one of the things that’s deeply challenging for biology and biochemistry - it’s extremely resistant to the sort of reductionism that works so well for other fields. It’s rare to find a single compound, a single species, or a single pathway that’s responsible enough for an effect to show up in studies of the sort of power that one can muster without a ton of time and money, and as soon as you try to capture sy…

> metabolic pathways that span multiple species are common to the point that trying to isolate a given species’ contribution can miss the effect entirely.

What does this mean?

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by hyperhello »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #25
dylan604 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is funny how that is the thing people turn to rather than just eating food. Let me eat junk and be happy while taking supplements.

What part of their post indicates they eat junk? Maybe they just don't want to have spicy minty meals every day

I don’t just eat junk, but it’s hard to experiment with a whole dietary change when you have sporadic inflammation. I guess that’s why we do scientific studies, right?

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by adzm »

msuniverse2026 wrote: post #7

Pretty interesting. In homeopathy mint is considered one of the most potent antidoting substances which is something that neutralises or cancels the action of another homeopathic remedy. Maybe a comment like this activates chimp brain downvote circuits in HNers but a lot of medicines start from these folk traditions and then make their way into regular medicine.

Folk medicine and remedies are one thing; traditional and herbal medicine certainly has its place and is understudied.

Homeopathy however is pure nonsense even on a fundamental scientific level.

It is unfortunate that the two get conflated.

Re: Combining spicy foods with mint boosts anti-inflammatory effects 100x or more

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Post by ngriffiths »

mutagen wrote: post #23
aappleby wrote: post #6

The article title is super misleading - this is about measurements of inflammatory markers in vitro and explicitly does not generalize to food intake.

It is also missing the "in Mice" part of the headline. https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/18/3/376 Functional Phytochemicals Cooperatively Suppress Inflammation in RAW264.7 Cells RAW 264.7 cells are a mouse macrophage cell line commonly used in research to study immune responses, inflammation, and cancer.

In mice, but not even real mice. That's a new one!
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