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John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

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Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

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Seems like a small price for a big company. Shouldn’t there be some higher punitive fine for even trying this tactic? It’s basically zero cost for companies to be abusive.

Yes there should be. But there won’t be until US stops lobbying and American public elects lawmakers that work for people instead of their own pockets.

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t comment if you don’t want to actually contribute. How are people supposed to know these things before buying the equipment. What if they’re the only provider in their region? There’s a billion reasons why your comment doesn’t contribute.

"Don't buy their stuff" is exactly the right answer. You need to do your research before you buy big ticket items. It may not be true in every sector, but Deere has plenty of competition.

How can you do research without victims complaining?

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

#24

The stock is up 5% today. What’s the catch?

They settled, and paid pennies for being able to continue the status quo. Given that the headline is journalistic malpractice at best; and you asking this question kinda proves that.

> While the agricultural manufacturing giant pointed out in a statement that this is no admission of wrongdoing

Welp, gotta sue again in the future, hopefully lobbied laws in place to prevent whatever forced them to settle by then!

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

#25

The stock is up 5% today. What’s the catch?

Anticipating 10.01 years from now, when John Deere sends a new over the air update and the situation goes right back to where it was, with no one having access to their equipment.

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Don’t comment if you don’t want to actually contribute. How are people supposed to know these things before buying the equipment. What if they’re the only provider in their region? There’s a billion reasons why your comment doesn’t contribute.

>How are people supposed to know these things before buying the equipment.

By looking at reviews or paying someone to evaluate the product.

>What if they’re the only provider in their region

Then there is an opportunity for competition. Or you can import a product from another region.

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

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The complete crack of Deere's firmware in 2022 must have had some impact on this. https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/16/john_deere_doom/ Edit: 'Sick Codes confirmed that he believes John Deere failed to comply with its GPL obligations. "I'd love for them to come forward and explain how they are in compliance," he said.'

I wouldn’t really call that a “complete crack” (although it IS cool). There’s an _awful_ lot more firmware in a car or tractor than the display unit, and arguably it’s one of the less important modules in most architectures. Cracked versions of Deere Service Advisor are much more meaningful to the kinds of repairs farmers perform than firmware exploits are.

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

#28
I bought a ~completely mechanical tractor without ECU right under the 25hp cutoff that requires computer and emissions controls to get around this bullshit. The adding of DPF and/or SCR to agricultural diesels gave vendors cover to fuck the customer using the excuse of preventing emissions tampering.

Re: John Deere to pay $99M in right-to-repair settlement

#29

The stock is up 5% today. What’s the catch?

There was a MoU between the American Farm Bureau and John Deere signed in 2023 that outlined right to repair. This consequently already altered Deere's business model with respect to IP and right to repair, and gave signals that a settlement was coming. In other words, the stock price already accounted for the change. Very few things catches stock prices by surprise in the long term.
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