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Where does all the milk go?

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Re: Where does all the milk go?

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I appreciate the raw milk warning in there. Raw milk kills people ever year. It gets lost in the flood of dairy marketing.

I'm pretty sure people who drink raw milk are aware of the risks.

You'd be surprised. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/u-penn-s...

Re: Where does all the milk go?

#22
It doesn't even start with the cow!

The cow is the index case of microbiome über alles, that is the cow cannot digest grass at all but rather it is colonized with bacteria that eat the grass and then the cow eats the bacteria and the volatile fatty acids made by the bacteria.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

#23
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A sidenote about unhomogenized milk, it's delicious. I don't know if it actually tastes any different, but something about shaking it up before using it just makes it feel different.

It absolutely is. Toned homogenised milk is just a thin watery gruel colored white. For me Half'nHalf is about the right consistency but you can't get it unhomogenized. That said, cannot not post this mandatory calvin and hobbes strip https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Qdxv...

Half and Half is too much cream for most people. I've met someone who drank it constantly, but she was a former New York City Ballet dancer, with a very high metabolic rate, struggling to keep her weight up.

Milk mixes from all-cream to no-cream are available, after all.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I was a little bit disappointed that these more sinister parts were occluded but I guess that is to be expected after all, the dairy industry spends insane amounts of money to keep us gaslighted. Just ask somebody if cows give milk without being pregnant... Let's also not forget that the article basically skips what rennet actually is just naming it an enzyme.

> Just ask somebody if cows give milk without being pregnant Is that... controversial? Obviously a cow normally gives milk without being pregnant. It wouldn't be able to feed its calf otherwise.

I don't think people are kept abreast of the realities of animal farming in general.

Cows simply produce milk like chickens lay eggs.

Consider how imagery of a farmer inseminating a cow with his arm disappearing up some tract or fitting a spike to the baby so it can't drink its mom's milk -- or farm conditions in general -- are basically shock footage that people are insulated from until they maybe chance upon a movie like Dominion.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

#26

I appreciate the raw milk warning in there. Raw milk kills people ever year. It gets lost in the flood of dairy marketing.

I was at the off-grid farm of one of our area's premiere hippie mamas and she took me to her cow barn/milking parlor which had chickens running around and plenty of chicken crap. She told me she'd offer me some milk if her cows weren't dry which saved me the need to refuse the offer.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

#27
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure people who drink raw milk are aware of the risks.

They very much are not. https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1iydxaa/raw_milk_nearl...

That will vary by person. My father-in-law bred and milked pedigreed Holsteins. They had a 1 gallon pasteurizer and would just dip a gallon out of the bulk tank for household use when needed. So, most of the time they had pasteurized, non-homogenized. On occasion, the pasteurizer would break, so for a while they would drink raw milk. But of course understood the risk, and also knew darn well where the milk had come from and how clean the milking facility was.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I was a little bit disappointed that these more sinister parts were occluded but I guess that is to be expected after all, the dairy industry spends insane amounts of money to keep us gaslighted. Just ask somebody if cows give milk without being pregnant... Let's also not forget that the article basically skips what rennet actually is just naming it an enzyme.

> Just ask somebody if cows give milk without being pregnant Is that... controversial? Obviously a cow normally gives milk without being pregnant. It wouldn't be able to feed its calf otherwise.

A cow must have been pregnant to produce milk. So it's artificially inseminated and the calf separated (so as not to steal valuable milk) which is arguably traumatic to both the mother and the calf. Most modern people, if they've ever even thought about it at all, likely think that cows are bred to (or naturally do) produce milk without pregnancy being involved, like sheep are bred to grow wool around the year.

Re: Where does all the milk go?

#29
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You can do some of this at home too. I buy raw milk (it's common here in Switzerland) and make paneer or ricotta. Then I boil down the whey and make a fudge-like Norwegian cheese. Another pathway is to start with 35% fat cream or crème fraiche and make butter. Then you use the buttermilk to make cheese. Then you use the whey to make Norwegian cheese OR if you started with crème fraiche you take the sour whey and make…

where do you get the bacteria/ yeast from?

Easiest place to get it is from the product you want to produce.

For example, if you want to make yogurt then grab a little bit of the leftover yogurt in your fridge, drop a dollop of it in, and viola, it'll start the yogurtification process.

You can also rely on the open-air bacteria for some culturing, but the results can be all over the place. This is how a lot of sites suggest starting sour dough.

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