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BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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Re: BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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Considering BYD is down in sales it doesn’t seem like that’s the case

Probably meant the war between EVs and gasoline cars, not the one between all the brands in China.

The Chinese government has been all in on electrifying everything that they possibly can.

China can make electricity. Gasoline is at the whims of a US president.

Re: BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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> The new Denza Z9 GT, or the world’s longest-range pure EV, as BYD claims, is headed to Europe, offering 5-minute fast charging and a WLTP range of nearly 500 miles. I guess BYD doesn’t know about Lucid? Or the behemoth truck EVs like the Chevy Silverado EV? Both of those have nearly 500mi of EPA range, which means a lot more range than WLTP in normal conditions.

> Thanks to BYD’s new Blade Battery 2.0 and Flash Charging technology, the all-electric shooting brake can drive up to 1,036 km (644 miles) under CTLC conditions This is what makes the longest range EV as per their claim. The " range of nearly 500 miles " is what is going on sale in Europe.

And if lucid actually tested to CTLC, it’d probably be over that figure too. Pointless comparison given how optimistic CTLC is.

Re: BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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There are a number of reasons. 1) You won't always have access to the 1.5MW charging. 2) Stopping to charge, even if it's just for a few minutes, is inconvenient. 3) A larger battery will allow for greater lifetime range before it degrades to <80%

You forgot the biggest reason: Winter. What works for benchmarking under nice Cali weather condition doesn't work for IRL. Current generation lithium ion estimates are ~30-50% halving of range in winter (it's especially bad if you don't have your own garage with charging and pre warming the battery can easily reduce the availability battery capacity by another few percent in exchange for better en route efficiency).

Which is why the new sodium-ion batteries are likely to be preferred in cold climates, because even if they cannot reach energy/mass ratios as good as the best lithium-ion batteries, they lose much less of their capacity and charging speed, down to -40 Celsius degrees (-40 Fahrenheit degrees).

While for now sodium-ion batteries have similar prices with lithium-ion batteries, due to being on the market for less than a year, their second advantage is that once their production becomes more mature they should be significantly cheaper than Li-ion batteries.

Re: BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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> The Denza Z9 GT is available in China, starting at 269,800 yuan ($39,300). Oh my. EV war is over I suppose.

Considering BYD is down in sales it doesn’t seem like that’s the case

I have not seen information that BYD is significantly down in sales.

Forbes says that BYD had lower profits last year, due to intense competition inside China, which lead to lower sale prices.

On the other hand it is said that overseas BYD expects to have in 2026 sales 50% higher than in 2025.

There has been about a half of year during which the BYD sales in car numbers have been slightly less than before, but already in March 2026 BYD reported sales of over 300 thousand cars, compared with less than 200 thousand in February.

If they will continue to grow at this pace they will easily reach their target of one million and a half cars exported outside China during this year.

In any case, BYD already sells in a month about the same as Tesla sells in a quarter, and the distance between them will only grow.

Re: BYD's luxury EV with 5-min fast charging and 500 miles range is headed overseas

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Wait, people here claim that hybrid is the future? All while Chinese EVs are taking over everywhere?

It’s in every discussion here on EVs. Thread after thread of PHEVs lauded as the “obvious practical choice” despite being already essentially obsolete

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