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Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by kakacik »

> I usually hold up Big Hero 6 as the canonical example of optimistic robo-futurism

Yeah this shows severe misunderstanding of how sociopaths up there are shaping the future, while masses flock for next dopamine kick to wherever the carrot goes.

And I dont mean the word sociopaths as a slur but rather a factual description of basically all people in power - sillicon valley (or redmont or whatever) moguls, politics, pentagon and so on.

I am not generally a negative person and have rather positive outlook on future overall, but such naivety... no clue where it comes from. Even EU with its open source initiative on one side is visibly a control freak aparatus when looking at other actions. And apart from few small havens like Switzerland EU is still behaving light years better than US where most of these inventions come from. Then there is China. No.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by pixl97 »

kakacik wrote: post #21

> I usually hold up Big Hero 6 as the canonical example of optimistic robo-futurism Yeah this shows severe misunderstanding of how sociopaths up there are shaping the future, while masses flock for next dopamine kick to wherever the carrot goes. And I dont mean the word sociopaths as a slur but rather a factual description of basically all people in power - sillicon valley (or redmont or whatever) moguls, politics, p…

There are two groups of sociopaths here.

1 is the group you discuss, the ones that want to control the models to do what they want so they can control the future.

Group 2 is the ones that want models to be able to do anything, which is the group you seem to belong to. Of course in your desire to do anything yourself you find yourself unable to imagine the hellscape of a world that will be created when you release billions of agents that have little desire to fit in the rules of human society.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by utopiah »

Putting a hat on a tablet has not in fact "instilled a unique personality". If that's what kid are taught I worry how they'll grow up.

I suggest checking Arvind Narayanan's tinkering with his own children. That being said not every parent is a Princeton professor working on AI so tread with caution.

Also on a pragmatic front if you want to tinker on the domain something potentially easy to setup yet relatively open https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by nancyminusone »

After all this time, I still don't get voice control to interact with technology. Noisy, slow, imprecise, realtime, linear. I think I've only met 2 people ever who genuinely want to do this. Everyone else I know just gets annoyed when they open their voice assistant on their phone by accident.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by stavros »

utopiah wrote: post #23

Putting a hat on a tablet has not in fact "instilled a unique personality". If that's what kid are taught I worry how they'll grow up. I suggest checking Arvind Narayanan's tinkering with his own children. That being said not every parent is a Princeton professor working on AI so tread with caution. Also on a pragmatic front if you want to tinker on the domain something potentially easy to setup yet relatively open h…

If you use a Voice PE, I made a server so you can use it without Home Assistant:

https://github.com/skorokithakis/havpe-server

It'll just send the recognized speech to your own API endpoint, and speak whatever is returned.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by stavros »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6
giancarlostoro wrote: post #2

This is the kind of project I really want to make, especially now that LLMs are very capable, even the small ones. Just need a good computer to run the model off of. I wonder what happened to Mycroft? I looked forward to seeing more of it. Mycroft was an open source alternative to Alexa. https://github.com/mycroftai

I cannot edit my original comment, I posted a thread on HN apparently Mycroft AI was killed by a patent troll that drained their funds with legal fees. Patent trolling should really have legal consequences for suing people while not actually providing value to society. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47678354

This is why we can't have nice things.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by Thorrez »

nancyminusone wrote: post #24

After all this time, I still don't get voice control to interact with technology. Noisy, slow, imprecise, realtime, linear. I think I've only met 2 people ever who genuinely want to do this. Everyone else I know just gets annoyed when they open their voice assistant on their phone by accident.

One benefit is avoiding screen time. You can't get sucked into your phone/computer if you don't touch them. Looking up a piece of information using the smart speaker helps prevent distraction.

Another benefit is if your hands are full. For example if you're cooking or driving.

Another benefit can be speed. If you're doing something in your house near the smart speaker, it's probably faster to ask it a question than to pull your phone out of your pocket, unlock it (I only have a password, not fingerprint/face ID), and type in the query. For people who are slow at typing, this benefit is larger.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by dyauspitr »

nancyminusone wrote: post #24

After all this time, I still don't get voice control to interact with technology. Noisy, slow, imprecise, realtime, linear. I think I've only met 2 people ever who genuinely want to do this. Everyone else I know just gets annoyed when they open their voice assistant on their phone by accident.

I don’t know about voice interactions to control things, but I do 90% of all my text input into a computer using my voice at this point. With LLMs I’d say 99% of my interaction with them is using my voice and I usually then read the text that comes back.

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by kukanani »

utopiah wrote: post #23

Putting a hat on a tablet has not in fact "instilled a unique personality". If that's what kid are taught I worry how they'll grow up. I suggest checking Arvind Narayanan's tinkering with his own children. That being said not every parent is a Princeton professor working on AI so tread with caution. Also on a pragmatic front if you want to tinker on the domain something potentially easy to setup yet relatively open h…

The personality also comes from the system prompt, but I’ll grant you, it’s pretty minor.

I’m looking forward to a future where everyone could have their own personality model that is actually fine tuned at the weight level. Plus if we come up with better ways to do lifelong learning, personality could emerge from the robot’s experiences

Re: An AI robot in my home

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Post by kukanani »

ignorantguy wrote: post #10

@kukanani, would you mind sharing the source code please? I really want to hack on this.

Apologies - the source code was shared with me in confidence, dropping it on GitHub was explicitly one of the things I would not do with it. Will update you if that stance changes!
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