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I get anxiety publishing open source because of things like this.
I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
I don't think this is the case at all. You are commenting in a discussion on how a maintainer of an unstable project which very clearly and unambiguously only targets and supports a specific version of a runtime. Still, said maintainer is being pestered by entitled users who attack the maintainer and how they chose to invest their free time contributing to the project with accusations of being "insane".
This is not "passion". This is sheer entitlement, and abuse on top.
If this was passion, you'd see users contributing their work with proposals to post releases. Even very low effort things like forking the repo and posting their custom releases would be infinitely more productive. You know, the core of FLOSS.
But no. You have someone doing their best generously contributing their time to provide something to the public, and in return they get insults and abuse.
No wonder projects get archived.
So what will happen now? Who will take over? Abandoning a project because 1 person is kinda extreme.
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I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
I don't think you've done any of that - at least not for a successful open source project. The topic here is about open source volunteers and not your day job.
Though many of my projects are completely free for the users.
Latest being this one already past 1000+ active users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macrocodex...
If you don't listen to your passionate users, i doubt you'll ever grow.
Someone being rude/entitled doesn't matter to me, I only care about if what they are saying actually makes any sense
Genuine question: Why not just close such derailing and burdensome issues and/or block mean people? My guess: People would freak out if FOSS maintainers actually did this.
A variation on this is the above plus they get a hoard of friends/wellwishers/bots etc to raise more issues claiming censorship and it devolves into a massive ad hominem flame war, doxxing, death threats and the usual rubbish that ruin a good thing.
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I don't think you've done any of that - at least not for a successful open source project. The topic here is about open source volunteers and not your day job.
I built businesses not opensource projects. Though many of my projects are completely free for the users. Latest being this one already past 1000+ active users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macrocodex... If you don't listen to your passionate users, i doubt you'll ever grow. Someone being rude/entitled doesn't matter to me, I only care about if what they are saying actually makes any sense
I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
> Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean? Some people are just mean. They spend their angry little lives walking around "outraged" by any minor inconvenience. They assume every single little happenstance was designed to make them miserable. The greatest thing about having a good education and working with other experts is that I generally don't meet this people that much, but I remember them…
And most people who wronged me were never really rude to me. So i don't even use someone's rudeness as filter for anything.
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I don't think you've done any of that - at least not for a successful open source project. The topic here is about open source volunteers and not your day job.
I built businesses not opensource projects. Though many of my projects are completely free for the users. Latest being this one already past 1000+ active users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macrocodex... If you don't listen to your passionate users, i doubt you'll ever grow. Someone being rude/entitled doesn't matter to me, I only care about if what they are saying actually makes any sense
On an open source project that I’m doing for my own enjoyment rude people are not welcome. I’m doing that for my own enjoyment - to decompress after dealing with rude people. Close issue, won’t fix, ban free user.