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Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

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Re: Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

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> Last year, we rolled out a new service that changed how data is placed across Magic Pocket. The change reduced write amplification for background writes, so each write triggered fewer backend storage operations. But it also had an unintended side effect: fragmentation increased, pushing storage overhead higher. Most of that growth came from a small number of severely under-filled volumes that consumed a disproporti…

Author here :) We did have high-level metrics and expectations for how this change would behave, but a couple of factors made it much harder to reason about in practice that were happening in parallel.

Data in these systems moves slowly and with a lot of inertia, so the effects show up gradually and can lag behind the change itself. On top of that, the impact wasn’t uniform. Most of the overhead came from a small subset of volumes, so it took time to isolate what was actually driving the increase. These systems are hard to test at scale!

Re: Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

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post #16

It’s a shame that such fantastic engineering work is buried behind a product with so many annoyances dictated by the marketing/revenue teams. I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client. Until then, I’m using Filen. It’s fine, I have some qualms with it but it runs on every platform including Linux, it’s affordable, and end to end encrypted.

I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client.

They absolute do!

https://help.dropbox.com/installs/simplified-desktop-applica...

Here's a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/7g2xRJP.png

It's just a non-intrusive little menu that lives on your system tray. No ads, nags, bloat or unwanted new "features" pushed onto you. It resembles their original software much more than it does the latest garbage to come out of that company.

The context menu shortcuts in File Explorer for Copy Link, Share, and View on Dropbox still work. Sync works. Most of the other crap is gone. It's great. It was so refreshing when it got installed. I would have left Dropbox by now without it.

Re: Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

#23
post #16

It’s a shame that such fantastic engineering work is buried behind a product with so many annoyances dictated by the marketing/revenue teams. I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client. Until then, I’m using Filen. It’s fine, I have some qualms with it but it runs on every platform including Linux, it’s affordable, and end to end encrypted.

I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client. They absolute do! https://help.dropbox.com/installs/simplified-desktop-applica... Here's a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/7g2xRJP.png It's just a non-intrusive little menu that lives on your system tray. No ads, nags, bloat or unwanted new "features" pushed onto you. It resembles their original software much m…

Wow! It looks maybe a little hard to trust given that it’s clearly designed for older OSes but maybe I’ll play with it since my account is free tier anyway.

(I guess for Linux I could run the headless daemon, I think only the standard desktop experience is available)

Re: Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

#24
post #16

It’s a shame that such fantastic engineering work is buried behind a product with so many annoyances dictated by the marketing/revenue teams. I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client. Until then, I’m using Filen. It’s fine, I have some qualms with it but it runs on every platform including Linux, it’s affordable, and end to end encrypted.

I wish Dropbox would make some kind of “classic edition” that removed annoyances from their desktop client. They absolute do! https://help.dropbox.com/installs/simplified-desktop-applica... Here's a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/7g2xRJP.png It's just a non-intrusive little menu that lives on your system tray. No ads, nags, bloat or unwanted new "features" pushed onto you. It resembles their original software much m…

Wow, it basically looks like it has all the good bits and all the jank taken out. Thank you.

Re: Improving storage efficiency in Magic Pocket, Dropbox's immutable blob store

#25
post #7

Google recently increased storage from 2 TB to 5 TB on their $20 AI plan, while Dropbox is still stuck at 2 or 3 TB for their $12/$20 plans. They moved from 1 TB to 2 TB in mid-2019, and I wonder if they ever plan to pass on any of the gains from the past seven years of technological advancements, or if those gains are simply being captured on their side while we keep paying the same.

I'm transitioning a lot of my more valuable stuff over from GDrive to Dropbox. It's too easy for something to take out your entire Goog acct and not be able to unlock it, for one. Secondly, their synchronisation is pretty poor and always getting snarled up. Dropbox will let you synchronize across a LAN too without having the other clients wait for it to appear on the cloud. And lastly, if you accidentally delete something off GDrive you are up shit creek. The process for undeleting something (which is a support call) is absolutely horrible. Dropbox at least will give you minimum 30 days to rewind.
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