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Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

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Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#21

Aren't VP9 and AV1 supposed to be "royalty free formats" ?

They are supposed to be, but Disney doesn't think so: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/av1s-open-royalty-fr...

Also, let's not forget that the majority of devices still don't have AV1 hardware decoding support. For example, Apple only recently (2023) added support with iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#22

I guess to me this doesn't seem like that big of a deal? I mean if you have a 100 million subscribers, do you really care much about a few $million increase? I thought the big players like Youtube had already moved to open source codecs already anyway.

>few $million increase?

Existing licensees are grandfathered in to the old price.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#23

Aren't VP9 and AV1 supposed to be "royalty free formats" ?

They are supposed to be, but Disney doesn't think so: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/av1s-open-royalty-fr... Also, let's not forget that the majority of devices still don't have AV1 hardware decoding support. For example, Apple only recently (2023) added support with iPhone 15 Pro and M3 Macs.

The claims made by Dolby that some H.265 patent claims that are formulated very vaguely also apply to AV1 are probably bogus.

Like many other such frivolous patent lawsuits, Dolby hopes to either scare the other company into making a deal in order to avoid bigger legal expenses, or to establish a legal precedent if their cunning lawyers can convince a technically incompetent jury that the H.265 patents are applicable to AV1.

This is the kind of trial that should have never been decided by a normal jury, but only by a panel of neutral experts in this field.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the article says, there are companies seeking royalties for both of these codecs.

There is no proof that their patent claims over AV1 or VP9 are valid. For now they try to bully some smaller companies with the threat of the big legal expenses that would be needed to fight these claims.

i don't think Snap Inc. and Amazon are small companies

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#26
That's an insane amount.

That makes me feel even more strongly about throwing proprietary and predatory codecs in the trash and opting to use AV1 et al wherever possible, it's better anyways and surely close to a decade after coming out, we'd expect devices to support it well enough.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#27
post #25

So should I re-encode all my videos to OGG? I’m really confused what this means for the average person who has home videos encoded in these formats.

Unless you're running a platform with millions of users, where you use the codec to encode/decode video for others, you have absolutely nothing to worry about due to these news.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#28
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VP9, AV1

As the article says, there are companies seeking royalties for both of these codecs.

The funny thing about patent licensing alliances is that there's no guarantee that nobody else outside of the bloc will pop up and start suing people.

Basically, you can consider AOM to be a licensing alliances, where the fee is zero.

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#29
post #25

So should I re-encode all my videos to OGG? I’m really confused what this means for the average person who has home videos encoded in these formats.

Unless you're running a platform with millions of users, where you use the codec to encode/decode video for others, you have absolutely nothing to worry about due to these news.

Thank you!

Re: Firm boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100k up to staggering $4.5M

#30
post #25

So should I re-encode all my videos to OGG? I’m really confused what this means for the average person who has home videos encoded in these formats.

Note that OGG is not a video codec, it's just a container format. I.e. an OGG file can contain MPEG-4/H.264-encoded video.
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