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Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Re: Artemis II will use laser beams to live-stream 4K moon footage at 260 Mbps

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Post by yardie »

sentientslug wrote: post #12
yardie wrote: post #11

A reminder that the illegal DOGE took a chainsaw to NASA personnel last year. If you're disappointed that the feed update wasn't as polished as a SpaceX launch it's because the later has an actual communications and marketing department with a budget.

I really don’t think budget cuts prevented the camera operator from panning up at the right time…

> panning up at the right time…

I've watched hours of athlete parents try to track their athlete kid and it's marginally useful at best. Lots of shaky cam even at Pop Warner football speeds. So panning at the right time, with the muscle control to keep the object centered, is harder than you think.

If they have a professional videographer on staff working that camera it almost certainly would have never happened. Elon, who was in charge of DOGE, didn't take communications and marketing seriously so I'm almost certain they were one of the first to be let go.

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Post by fxtentacle »

SoftTalker wrote: post #3

> never-before-seen views of “the far side of the Moon“ I guess not counting all the prior "views" that have been recorded since the Apollo missions, including Chinese orbiters which (according to Wikipedia) "scanned the entire Moon in unprecedented detail, generating a high definition 3D map that would provide a reference for future soft landings"

Those were transmitted offline so they didn't have authentic NVENC H264 compression artifacts. Never before have you seen it with 260 Mbps ;)

/s

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Post by daveguy »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #16
z33b wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The camera and simulation footage were a bit of a letdown and something SpaceX does much better. On the other hand NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form where science takes precedence over presentation. For that money however I concur - I expected more. Especially the simulation footage where the lack of brightness made it hard to see the vehicle - they might as well have used KSP for it

> NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form For real? I was rolling my eyes hard at: GC systems go? GC systems go for all for humanity! And then the VERY scripted pre-launch speeches. It’s like everyone there had been taking notes from inspirational hero movies. It’s cool. But let’s not act like going around the moon is the most historic thing ever… since we’ve already done it plenty, right?

The entire prelaunch is scripted. Safety is the point of prelaunch checklists and polls. Why would you get bent out of shape over each of them being able to give their own response to the final call before launch?

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Post by reaperducer »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #16
z33b wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The camera and simulation footage were a bit of a letdown and something SpaceX does much better. On the other hand NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form where science takes precedence over presentation. For that money however I concur - I expected more. Especially the simulation footage where the lack of brightness made it hard to see the vehicle - they might as well have used KSP for it

> NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form For real? I was rolling my eyes hard at: GC systems go? GC systems go for all for humanity! And then the VERY scripted pre-launch speeches. It’s like everyone there had been taking notes from inspirational hero movies. It’s cool. But let’s not act like going around the moon is the most historic thing ever… since we’ve already done it plenty, right?

What NASA does goes in the history books.

What SpaceX does goes in quarterly reports.

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Post by snowe2010 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #16
z33b wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The camera and simulation footage were a bit of a letdown and something SpaceX does much better. On the other hand NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form where science takes precedence over presentation. For that money however I concur - I expected more. Especially the simulation footage where the lack of brightness made it hard to see the vehicle - they might as well have used KSP for it

> NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form For real? I was rolling my eyes hard at: GC systems go? GC systems go for all for humanity! And then the VERY scripted pre-launch speeches. It’s like everyone there had been taking notes from inspirational hero movies. It’s cool. But let’s not act like going around the moon is the most historic thing ever… since we’ve already done it plenty, right?

They literally played clips from actors in recent moon movies so yes, they definitely were taking notes from movies.

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Post by ssl-3 »

therouwboat wrote: post #9
piyh wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy that a dude from Iowa and his ragtag group of rocket watchers does a better job with launch coverage than NASA. I can't believe they cut away during booster separation. Absolute shit show.

maybe they should turn back and do it again

This isn't the last run for this rocket, is it? We'll do it again.

And when we do it again, maybe we should pay the dude from Iowa (who has made a career out of things like streaming rocket launches on video) to provide his team's shots and editing for the official live feed when launch time comes up.

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Post by reaperducer »

piyh wrote: post #6
xattt wrote: post #2

Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

Crazy that a dude from Iowa and his ragtag group of rocket watchers does a better job with launch coverage than NASA. I can't believe they cut away during booster separation. Absolute shit show.

Crazy that a dude from Iowa and his ragtag group of rocket watchers does a better job with launch coverage than NASA.

You may not have noticed, but NASA was also launching an actual rocket at the time. Conducting a livestream and conducting a livestream while launching a rocket to the other side of the moon are hardly equivalent.

Absolute shit show.

You have a remarkably low threshold for "shit show."

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Post by reaperducer »

ssl-3 wrote: post #26
therouwboat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe they should turn back and do it again

This isn't the last run for this rocket, is it? We'll do it again. And when we do it again, maybe we should pay the dude from Iowa (who has made a career out of things like streaming rocket launches on video) to provide his team's shots and editing for the official live feed when launch time comes up.

We've already seen what happens when you allow social media types to infect the government.

Let's not foster any more of it.

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Post by IshKebab »

z33b wrote: post #7
xattt wrote: post #2

Hopefully, the footage is better than the missed pan up at lift-off, and showing spectators at the time of booster separation. I understand funding cuts and all, but this is a once-in-a-generation moment and it’s filmed with no apparent effort whatsoever.

The camera and simulation footage were a bit of a letdown and something SpaceX does much better. On the other hand NASA launches do evoke a feeling of substance over form where science takes precedence over presentation. For that money however I concur - I expected more. Especially the simulation footage where the lack of brightness made it hard to see the vehicle - they might as well have used KSP for it

> evoke a feeling of substance over form...

The feeling it evoked in me was that a multi billion dollar PR program could surely afford to spend a little bit of money on reliable camera tracking, telemetry overlays, visualisations that run at more than 0.1 FPS, etc.

Absolutely bizarre.

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